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we can go ahead and get started. Evelyn,

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will you start us off with the roll

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Trusty Lee

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here. Trusty King here. Trusty Marquez

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here. Vice President Weekley present.

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President Wells here. Um, good evening.

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Sorry, it's a tough act to follow there.

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Um uh welcome to the June 11th, 2025

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meeting of the Redwood City School

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District Governing Board.

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situ

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and then this is our first meeting since

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the last day of school. So I just wanted

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to start us off by congratulating all

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the students and families for their

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accomplishments this year. Special

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congratulations to all the students that

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celebrated promotion ceremonies to

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middle school and graduation ceremonies

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to high schools. And of course, you

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know, congratulations and thank you to

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the office staff, the custodians, the

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transportation drivers, maintenance

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teams, child nutrition, mental health,

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teachers, community school coordinators,

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site admins, um district staff, you

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know, really all the staff that just is

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so instrumental in uh seeing our

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students um and families succeed. Uh so,

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thank you. Thank you all that uh work

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for the district and members of the

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public that are joining us. You know,

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you are our partners in education. Um

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participate and provide comments on

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issues of concern and regardless of

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whether they are on the agenda um to

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speak, please complete a speaker card

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online. If you are here or if you're

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here in person, you'll find them

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available at the entrance and then hand

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them to Evelyn. And if you're addressing

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a subject listed on the agenda, we'll

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call you at the time that that item is

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being considered. And if the issue is

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not on the agenda, you'll be called

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shortly during the oral communication

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agenda item uh that comes right after we

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approve the agenda. And of course, to be

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fair to all speakers, we limit uh

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comments to three minutes per person per

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topic unless it's otherwise noted. Um

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and so with that, uh do we have any

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we need a motion to approve the agenda.

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I move to approve the agenda.

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All right. All in favor? I. Okay. Agenda

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approved. And we will move on to public

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comment which I forgot to open. Evelyn,

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maybe you have it open. You can tell me

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then we will start with Maria Stockton.

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Um, and if you wouldn't uh if you turn

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Apologize. Hi there, Maria Stockton. Uh,

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uh, Redwood City 5 chapter president.

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Uh, I'm first I I all day I was so happy

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to come and talk to you and then

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something happened. I'm not so happy.

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So, I'm going to try and get over this.

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I'm sorry. But first, I want to tell you

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how delightful it was for us to go over

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to the schools Thursday and Friday, our

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representatives from CSEA to give five

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of eight graduate five of eighth of

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graduating students from eighth grade.

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Uh it was a $100 scholarship. Our people

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loved doing it. it was uh put the names

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were given by the principles and the

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reasons and so it was a delight and we

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are hoping and really working toward

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making this happen again next year. So

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we're really happy. So the other thing

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that may be upset is we are working very

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very hard to settle issues in this

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school district. We respect the

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district. we expect to be respected and

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it's very hard for us to have meetings

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when we don't feel dis we don't feel

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respected by this district. We set

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meetings. We come here and we are told

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that the meetings are online and it's

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very disrespect disrespectful when we

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know there are people in this district

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behind closed doors on their computers

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instead of down here speaking face to

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face with us. It really makes us feel

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that this negotiations of whatever we do

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and trying to deal fairly with the

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district is not being recognized.

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director that lives out of the town. We

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have to work our schedules for her to be

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here if she's here. But the other people

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on your team are here in this office.

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they're here when they should have been

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down here, we feel is a waste of time

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and it is not good negotiations. We

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would hope that to improve, please.

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All right. Thank you for your comments,

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Maria. Um, let's move on to

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bond. Uh, let's see. Or communication.

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items. And our first item is 7.1

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adoption of the final facilities master

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plan.

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Good evening members of the board. Uh

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tonight I'll welcome Aaron Jobson from

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the facilities master plan uh as well as

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board a couple of weeks ago. So with

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that, I'll hand it over to Aaron.

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Thanks, Rick. I'm just going to share

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successfully. All right. So, uh just a

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quick kind of process overview to start

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since we met last time, which I think it

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was just two weeks ago, right? Uh then

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we uh we did some work to incorporate

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comments we got from you. We also got

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some additional comments from uh some of

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the school site leaders. Um so we made a

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few changes to the document based on

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feedback from you guys on on the uh for

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the charter schools specifically. uh

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the plans based on feedback from a

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couple of the principles and uh and then

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and you know kind of crossing the tees,

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corrections here and there to fix a few

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errors that we had noticed. And then

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late last week we published the updated

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draft for for today that we're reviewing

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today. Um, and then the goal here is

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hopefully to get your approval on that

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tonight. And then we'll publish the

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final draft. And there may be a few

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things that we need to incorporate

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corrections we noted already. And if

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those as part of the approval and

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anything like that. Um, so that's all

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part of the process we've been through

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this point. Uh, and really kind of

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trying to have as much engagement in

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this process and with the community as

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needs of the community and the desires

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of the community for what's most

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important to improve the educational

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experience and really how to best use

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each dollar the district has to benefit

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education. So, that's kind of overall

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where we are. Um, we we've been through

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this document a number of times, so I'm

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at anything you want to look at. We have

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the whole document here, and I'll make

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any any kind of comments and notes on um

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on it that um that we come up with

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kind of formally present any parts of it

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materially different between the last

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time we reviewed it but it sounds like

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what you're saying is that there no real

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material changes. Some some suggestions

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rolled in but nothing really significant

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to the suggested plans or what would

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happen at each site. Correct. Yeah. I

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think there were a few, you know, kind

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of moving make this classroom pre-K and

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this classroom, uh, you know, TK and

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then some of the relatively minor

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changes, but didn't change like the

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scope of projects and we're able to do

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that accommodate those most of the

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comments that we got by doing that

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without having significant changes,

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right? And of course, the details we

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we're at the top level and we'll get

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anything they'd like to discuss, comment

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on, or ask questions about?

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plan, so I think that that's not too

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surprising. Um, and then Rick, I

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couldn't quite tell if you had anything

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that you wanted to um, add. You were

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kind of looking I wasn't sure if you had

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a comment you wanted to make or no.

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happy with the document knowing that

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it's a living document. Yeah. Uh that's

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subject to modification as we move

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forward as we identify plan and identify

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future projects that this uh can come

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back for amendments or additions or

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deletions. Uh and thanks to Aaron and

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the QKA team for the work on this.

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the the context that you know this

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now and it's the best just choices that

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we can make based on that information

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future it's expected that the document

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will be revised. It's required by Prop 2

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that you update the master plan every 5

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years. So that's kind of a good

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benchmark to use as a cycle. But if

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something significant changes before

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than that um you know that's easy enough

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to do as well. Yeah. And that's a really

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good reminder because I feel like there

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were flavors of questions that had come

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up around well what if this scenario

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happened three years from now um have

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you locked your you know and of course

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not uh you can come back and revise it.

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So yeah classic example of that is if we

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were to look back five six years ago

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then all of a sudden we're adding TK

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that's a pretty big change in context.

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Yeah. And so that requires updating a

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whole bunch of master plans and we don't

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expect necessarily something that

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significant in the near future. But

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enrollment trends obviously are the kind

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of most obvious thing that can change

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and and require revisions whether that's

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just to one part of one school or you

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know more than that. Yeah. Okay. Um I

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agree with Rick. Thank you for the the

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work that's been gone in here and for

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the engagement with the board coming to

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our meetings and sort of answering all

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our questions and the engagement with

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the community at the two school sites.

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the the actual the community meetings at

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the two school sites, the one online and

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then numerous I don't know actually how

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many times you went and met at the um

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school sites themselves to be able to

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pull the information. So at least two at

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each school. So not sure what that adds

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up to in total, but that would be a good

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over 20. So that's a good amount. Um

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okay, so this is a this is an action.

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Yes, this is an action item and so we'll

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need a vote to approve. Um can I get a

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motion to approve? Uh, I move to adopt

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the facility master plan. And is there a

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second? Second. All in favor? I

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pass. Thank you. It's been a pleasure

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working with you all and look forward to

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working more in the future. Likewise.

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Okay.

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Okay. Um, our next item is 7.2, which is

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the approval of the seaman's building

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management uh system for the mechanical

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controls for the school sites getting

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HVAC. Um, Rick. Yeah. And I'd like to

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invite Nick Olson up from VPCS, our bond

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program manager, and Marvantes uh who we

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all know to talk about the Seaman's

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building management system. Thank you

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for that introduction, Rick. Uh good

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evening, members of the board. So 7.2 2

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is the recommended approval of the

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seaman's building management system

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specifically for the mechanical controls

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for this summer's four campuses where

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we're replacing and upgrading the HVAC.

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So just as a reminder that's Hoover,

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Taft, Roosevelt, and Adilante Selby. Um

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the reason that we're recommending

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Seammens is because the district

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actually standardized with Seammen's uh

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building management control a while

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back. So we want wanted to continue that

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for ease of maintenance and consistency.

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So that was what was specified in the

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project. Uh the reason that we're

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recommending contracting with them

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directly is so that we can take

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advantage of uh the cooperative

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purchasing agreement through Sourcewell

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uh to get us the best price for the

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scope. So we're happy to take any

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questions, but uh the recommendation is

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to approve this contract with sequence.

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All right. Thank you. Uh do do anyone

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have um questions or comments?

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Okay. The one the one question I had is

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for this one and it kind of relates to

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the next one, Rick and I think we had

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talked about this once before, but I

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mean I joined measure T way down through

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the implementation process and there was

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kind of a detailed budgeting process

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around it to be able to track it. With

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only like one or two projects going on,

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it's pretty easy to kind of keep it, you

363
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know, float. when when do you think

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we'll move into that kind of here it is

365
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you know here's the contingency here's

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the board reserve here's the budget and

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the moving of transferring of funds

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between projects and etc. Yeah so we're

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still uh we're finalizing the

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implementation of the financial system

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for measure S uh and we're starting to

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get I'll say valid reports out of that

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where we'll be able to present those to

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the board on a regular basis. Okay,

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great. Yeah, I keep asking like what's

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the budget? I can't remember. So, it's

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been it's been helpful. Okay. And we'll

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be able to include that for as well with

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specific projects as they come back for

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discussion or Okay. updates. Okay.

381
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Great. Perfect. Um Okay. Uh is there a

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motion to approve this?

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I'll make a motion to approve 7.2. And

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is there a second?

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All in favor? I perfect. Um okay. Okay.

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Then 7.3 is the guaranteed maximum price

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amendment for the lease with block

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constructions for the HVAC updates going

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in this summer. I'll just turn it over

390
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to Nick and Martin again. Yeah, thank

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you. Uh 7.3 as you said is recommended

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approval of the GMP for uh block

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construction. If you recall at the May

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14th meeting, uh the board approved the

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lease lease back contract with block

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construction to kick off the

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pre-construction portion of that work.

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Um that started our subcontractor

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bidding period. Um, so we went through a

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whole collaborative process with Block

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um to for the pre-approved

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subcontractors to bid um and they're

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pre-approved based on prior experience

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um ability to meet the contracts uh or

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schedule um and so we did a open book

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competitive process. We got good bid

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coverage. I think we got really

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competitive bids. Um, so,

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um, now this is all the rest of the

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scope outside of the controls. Remember,

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we pre-ordered the actual mechanical

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units. Um, and if the board approves

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tonight, uh, we would spend the next

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couple days getting bonds and insurance

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and all that in place and actual start

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actual construction on Monday. So, uh,

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that's the hope. Uh, I also wanted to

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note that this also includes some

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contingencies for possible unforeseen

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because this is a modernization project

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and it includes the scope to install the

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temporary air conditioning units that we

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delivered to all the other schools uh

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that will happen over the summer. So, in

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both cases, the goal is to be ready for

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students and staff to come back in

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August.

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Great. Sounds good. Um, does anyone have

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questions or comments?

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Nope. Okay. Um, well, thank you for

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locking in the GMP before or right as

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summer is starting. Um, it was a tight

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timeline and so I appreciate everyone's

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diligence in getting that in there. Um,

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and I know that it's a tight timeline

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between now and when school starts in

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August. But I think it's going to make a

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tremendous difference because even

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though we've had a very temperate May

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and most of June, um, you know, who

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know, we've seen historically how August

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and September can just be such hot

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months. So, I'm excited to see all this

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work kind of land over the next few

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weeks. Um, can we get a motion to

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approve?

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I move to approve. Is there a second? A

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second. All in favor? I. Perfect. Great.

449
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Thank you guys. Yeah. Thank you. Have a

450
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good evening. Um, okay. We're on to 8.1,

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which is the discussion of the board

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meeting calendar for the 2526 school

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year.

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Uh, is there a preamble for this or

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should we just get right into our

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discussion? Get right into the

457
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discussion. Okay, you all see it in

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front of you. Um, I am going to actually

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kick off the discussion because I have a

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have a request at the very top of the um

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of the schedule there. Um, August 13th

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for me personally would be amazing if we

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were willing to move that to the 20th if

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that works for other people. I have a

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personal commitment the next day. Um,

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and that would prevent me from having to

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catch a midnight flight to make it to my

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nephew's wedding. Um, as opposed to

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being able to catch an earlier flight.

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20th is music in the park at which my

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wife is performing. So I would prefer if

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we made it like maybe Tuesday the 19th

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would work or Thursday the 21st or

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can we are able to change it if we do it

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a prior

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weeks ahead of time which we are doing

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right now. So

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August 6 just to keep Did you want did

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you want to keep keep it consistent on a

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Wednesday? I'm going to be gone August.

481
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Oh you're going to be gone August 6.

482
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Okay.

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What about the others? and August August

484
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6, by the way, there's this Shebach

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meeting, but we could move that one.

486
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Okay. Yeah,

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I think

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um the the Yes, we we talked about that.

489
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It's the 12th. Um I need to check I

490
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still need to check with Mr. Weekly.

491
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Yeah. Yeah. August 12th works.

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So, we are The other thing I wanted to

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point out about the 13th that I forgot

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is first day of school, right? It's the

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first day of school. Yeah. And so, um,

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while obviously school is not going on

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at 7:00 at night, I'm sure everyone here

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is going to have a very exciting and

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vigorous day and would we're all running

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around at different school sites. Yeah.

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And so, we would, you know, I think the

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normal people that come to attend and

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participate um might appreciate having

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an a free evening that evening as well.

505
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Um,

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but now, but it's I've selfishly started

507
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this for me just to be clear. So, so

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what works for 19? Turn that microphone

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on. All right. The 19th is fine. The

510
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Tuesday. Yeah. Okay. August 19th.

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Tuesday.

512
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Okay. Yeah.

513
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Okay. Discussion. Sorry.

514
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Oh, yeah. I was going to say any others.

515
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Yeah. Any others that

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see I'm just checking my calendar for

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August 19th, which is 27th. That looks

518
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good down here.

519
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September 10th.

520
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That looks good.

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At some point the calendar's too far out

522
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to know if it's really good or not. So

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17th I probably can't make se September

524
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17th. Okay. I could do literally the

525
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next day or the next week the 24th.

526
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Uh yeah, I think the September September

527
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run holidays. I can't remember. Um, we

528
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do have Rashana. Yeah. Okay. Um, the

529
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22nd through the 25th of September,

530
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right? Got it. Um, but yeah, if we were

531
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able to bump the 17th to the 18th and do

532
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that on a Thursday night, that would I

533
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probably also cannot make any anytime

534
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that week, honestly. Oh, yeah.

535
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But we can't punt it to the next week

536
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because of Russia. Yeah. Okay. That's

537
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stupid. Um

538
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like September.

539
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,520
Yep. September 30th or October 1st.

540
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,960
Yeah, October 1st is wide open for me.

541
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,120
That'd be no problem. First, but then we

542
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,880
have one right on the 8. There's also um

543
00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:32,720
this attachment that kind of like Oh,

544
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:35,919
yeah. It makes it a little easier to

545
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:38,720
see. Oh, here we go. Yeah. Yes. Perfect.

546
00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:42,559
Thank you. Okay. Yeah. Now I'm in Evelyn

547
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:45,039
mode. I got my three screens. Yes.

548
00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:47,039
Okay.

549
00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:48,559
They're highlighted in green squares.

550
00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:53,480
Yeah, I think that September to early

551
00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:53,480
October are kind of challenging. Um,

552
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,960
okay. Well, we can keep the 17th, but

553
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,640
there's a very good chance I just can't

554
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:12,480
make that then. Um, okay. I mean, it

555
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,080
might be better to do the 18th. I can't

556
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,440
make either of those, but if it

557
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,200
increases the likelihood of you being

558
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,039
there, then any quorum issues are

559
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,520
probably mitigated. C can we move it to

560
00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:23,200
Thursday, the 18th?

561
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:26,480
What's on the district calendar? Can we

562
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:28,960
look and see on the 18th in the district

563
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:31,039
calendar? The only thing that is

564
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,120
happening at that time or the parent

565
00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:36,880
teacher conference has done that. So we

566
00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:38,559
could move to the 18th. Okay.

567
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,000
And you you'll double check all these to

568
00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:42,000
make sure that something else scheduled

569
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,000
for that night. Okay. I mean probably

570
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:47,000
things at school sites and stuff. Right.

571
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,000
Right.

572
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,400
All right. I think everything else after

573
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:54,640
that is probably like too hard to say

574
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:56,480
for sure. So maybe schedule. Yeah. Yeah.

575
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,400
I think that's about right. Okay. So, it

576
00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,960
sounds like we've got uh two changes in

577
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:04,559
here. One for the August 19th for the

578
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:08,640
first meeting and um September 18th uh

579
00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:12,080
for that week instead of the 17th. Okay.

580
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:16,000
Any other items to discuss

581
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:18,240
on the this topic? No. Okay. Um All

582
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,760
right. Then more items to discuss. Uh

583
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,200
we're going to move on to 8.2, which is

584
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,679
the first reading and discussion of

585
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:26,080
board policy 1250. Uh this is about

586
00:23:23,679 --> 00:23:28,640
visitors and outsiders.

587
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,720
It's windy. Thank you. So, there are a

588
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:34,080
few board policies and ARs coming to you

589
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:36,640
tonight. This is the first one as a um

590
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:40,240
update from a current policy that we

591
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:43,360
have with stronger language in about a

592
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:45,520
new concept called a registration where

593
00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:47,679
essentially a visitor would come in and

594
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:50,880
need to show documentation that's listed

595
00:23:47,679 --> 00:23:52,000
out in the ARS. Um visitors tend to be

596
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,840
there are some good questions about

597
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:58,720
that. um somebody dropping off something

598
00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:02,080
for their child but not staying, a guest

599
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,520
speaker for an assembly. Um a

600
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,919
salesperson that walks up to the school

601
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,840
and we turn them away. So there's a

602
00:24:05,919 --> 00:24:10,159
variety of opportunities where somebody

603
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:12,480
comes to literally visit the school but

604
00:24:10,159 --> 00:24:13,919
not isn't necessarily intending to stay

605
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,000
and is certainly not considered a

606
00:24:13,919 --> 00:24:17,360
volunteer. So those are two different

607
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,760
distinctions. We have separate board

608
00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:24,000
policy on volunteers.

609
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:25,760
Um so that is one um piece of it that

610
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,000
would that is going to require staff

611
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,679
training because that would be newer

612
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,159
than what we've experienced. Certainly

613
00:24:29,679 --> 00:24:34,320
when we have a parent that might come or

614
00:24:32,159 --> 00:24:36,159
is familiar on a regular basis we would

615
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:39,360
of course check but then there would be

616
00:24:36,159 --> 00:24:42,400
an ongoing acceptance of that person. Um

617
00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:45,440
but certainly for for people that are

618
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:47,520
not familiar and non-regular people this

619
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,679
process would definitely be in place. So

620
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:54,799
that would require uh training. The

621
00:24:49,679 --> 00:24:56,480
other piece is um the portion about

622
00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:59,440
um

623
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:04,320
when a registered sex offender is

624
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:07,279
requesting to be on campus. Um so that

625
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:09,200
certainly is a piece that CSBA updated

626
00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:13,039
and of course board policy reviewed this

627
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:14,640
a few months back and then CSBA also um

628
00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:17,919
you know obviously contributed to it

629
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:20,080
which came to these updates.

630
00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:21,600
So the BP and the AR are there any

631
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:25,640
questions

632
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,640
regarding this particular one?

633
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,240
I had just one question about the proof

634
00:25:30,159 --> 00:25:33,440
of identity. You know, it totally wasn't

635
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,200
clear to me from the language either,

636
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,000
but it sounds like it shifted from a

637
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:42,159
could provide to must provide proof of

638
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:43,679
identity and then are like

639
00:25:42,159 --> 00:25:45,360
is that going to be a barrier? Like what

640
00:25:43,679 --> 00:25:46,960
if someone doesn't what are the forms of

641
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:49,360
identity that they have to provide and

642
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,200
what if someone doesn't have that photo

643
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:53,279
identification with their name on it?

644
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,520
Okay. Yeah. But it doesn't necessarily

645
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:57,120
have to be a like a driver's license or

646
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,039
a government issued one. Those would be

647
00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:00,880
preferred. Um but the we're going to

648
00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:03,520
have to verify it because what we don't

649
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:06,320
want is somebody that we don't accept on

650
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,000
campus or have some other reason.

651
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,559
Interestingly enough, this is done all

652
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:13,440
the time right now. It's just the level

653
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:16,559
of scrutiny uh is is being increased

654
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,919
here. So we would expect to see um

655
00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:20,320
identification. So all of this will be

656
00:26:17,919 --> 00:26:22,480
communicated out okay uh in the first

657
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,240
day packets and and the communication

658
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,960
the early August communication from the

659
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,400
principal. Okay. Um it might be some

660
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,760
bumpy along the way, especially when

661
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,840
somebody just walks in and isn't

662
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,679
expecting that, but that's typical when

663
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,360
we're rolling out something. So

664
00:26:33,679 --> 00:26:37,919
expecting it to be Yeah. I just wouldn't

665
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:39,679
want it to be accidentally exclusive to

666
00:26:37,919 --> 00:26:42,159
some families and some members of the

667
00:26:39,679 --> 00:26:43,760
community. Yes. I think as as a school

668
00:26:42,159 --> 00:26:45,440
district in general, our employees are

669
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,360
conservative when it comes to strangers

670
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,640
on campus. We really want to make sure

671
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:50,720
students are safe. It's part of our

672
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,880
comprehensive safety plan in general.

673
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,240
Uh, so we'd have we're gonna have to

674
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,080
take that into account, but the

675
00:26:54,240 --> 00:27:00,640
identification is an important part of

676
00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:02,880
this up updated policy. Okay. Yeah. Um,

677
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,520
anyone else have questions, comments?

678
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,799
Okay. Only building off of yours. It

679
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,120
obviously you mentioned there's going to

680
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:12,000
be staff training on on this. Um, will

681
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:14,320
there also be similar community sort of

682
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,919
communication on this specifically with

683
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,600
families knowing that they need to have

684
00:27:15,919 --> 00:27:19,360
this if they're a to visitor or anyone

685
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,760
else like that? Yes, that would go out

686
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:24,159
in the first day packet. It's or and the

687
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:27,679
before school starts welcome to

688
00:27:24,159 --> 00:27:30,960
certainly the school community where it

689
00:27:27,679 --> 00:27:32,320
might be new to people that are walking

690
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,440
in off the street. That that's just

691
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,600
something we're going to have to adapt

692
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,200
to um

693
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,039
because we wouldn't typically advertise

694
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,840
that in a city of Redwood City. in the

695
00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:44,799
city. What we will do uh David is we

696
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:47,520
will definitely in the welcome

697
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:50,960
announcement that is we'll put all these

698
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:54,159
new board policies and a summary at what

699
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:56,880
is required. Um but as you said to the

700
00:27:54,159 --> 00:28:01,120
Redwood City public as a whole, what I

701
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:04,080
can have Jorge do is um on a website new

702
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:05,919
policies to you know be aware of and

703
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,559
there's like a star that flashes off and

704
00:28:05,919 --> 00:28:10,720
on. I could do that so that everyone who

705
00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:12,799
gets on the website, even if they're not

706
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,120
up here in our school district, but want

707
00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:17,200
to learn more about it, could see that.

708
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:19,039
Yeah, that that sounds great. Obviously,

709
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:23,080
you know, we'll work through the bumps,

710
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:23,080
but that sounds like a great plan.

711
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,320
Okay, I'll say it three times. Um, but

712
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,000
thank you staff and policy committee

713
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,240
for, you know, for reviewing the

714
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,000
policies here. Um, the one I like about

715
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,600
this is that I think a clear process

716
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,600
always is going to, you know, help

717
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,799
everybody know what to expect, um, and

718
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,120
be able to get into that. So, I think

719
00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:43,039
that's good. Uh, let's move on to 8.3,

720
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:46,080
which is the first reading discussion of

721
00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:48,000
BP 5131.8, the mobile communication

722
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,640
devices. We do have two public speakers,

723
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,840
so I'm going to have, um, Wendy, if you

724
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,799
want to do an introduction first and

725
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,720
then we'll have the comments. Sure. So,

726
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:58,799
thank you so much for tonight. uh with

727
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,440
this particular board policy has a

728
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:05,279
little bit of a story that goes with it

729
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:07,520
um other besides other policies but we

730
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:11,279
do have a a new law. So, first of all,

731
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:13,520
we have had our mobile device um mobile

732
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:16,320
communications actually board policy in

733
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:20,960
effect, but there was an update back in

734
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:22,559
September um through AB 3216

735
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:26,320
and it's called pupils use of

736
00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:30,000
smartphones. And essentially what the

737
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:32,320
law is is stating is that by July 1st,

738
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:36,080
2026

739
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:39,520
um the board needs to instate a policy

740
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:41,760
and review every 5 years the use of

741
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,640
smartphones and smart watches, smart

742
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:48,080
devices that students bring to school.

743
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,679
And the law through AB 3216 also

744
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,840
outlines

745
00:29:49,679 --> 00:29:55,600
um that

746
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:59,520
really the board needs to decide about

747
00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:02,240
how phones will be used or not used. So

748
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:05,760
it's encouraging certainly not having

749
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:08,320
cell phone usage at school and except

750
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,720
for a certain group of of students that

751
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,960
fit in four different situations. One is

752
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,200
in case of emergency, a student can have

753
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,039
access to a smartphone. When a teacher

754
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,360
or administrator

755
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:21,600
uh gives permission to possess one in a

756
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,679
certain situation or when a licensed

757
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,600
physician or surgeon determines that the

758
00:30:23,679 --> 00:30:28,240
possession is necessary for health or

759
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,640
well-being and then when the possession

760
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:33,360
is required in a student's IEP. So those

761
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,440
would be the exceptions to this. So in

762
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:39,440
processing through this information, um

763
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:41,039
Dr. Baker gave us direction uh to staff

764
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:45,360
and then eventually the board policy

765
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:47,360
committee to look at the law and really

766
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,520
gain stakeholder input which is part of

767
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,200
what the law requires as well. So a

768
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,799
survey went out. It was quite

769
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,039
comprehensive

770
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:57,840
uh some of the highlights of the survey

771
00:30:55,039 --> 00:31:00,159
which is attached to the board uh memo

772
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,559
here. So you can those in the public can

773
00:31:00,159 --> 00:31:05,440
also view it because there's quite a bit

774
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:07,679
of data in here about what parents um

775
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,080
noted regarding cell phone usage, what

776
00:31:07,679 --> 00:31:12,960
staff noted, and what students noted. So

777
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:16,159
we had about uh 1,794

778
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:18,880
responses to the survey spanning all

779
00:31:16,159 --> 00:31:21,440
grade levels. So we recognize that well,

780
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:24,480
we don't want to assume, but it's the

781
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:27,360
issues tend to occur um really in

782
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,840
primary grades. our TK um doesn't have

783
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,600
so much of this. However, uh the cell

784
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,320
phone use at school was something that

785
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,960
was really we were inquiring about why

786
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:40,240
parents, why staff, why students felt it

787
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:43,120
was important, how was it being used? Um

788
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,720
were students and teachers abiding by

789
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,880
and enforcing the rules that we

790
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:49,120
currently have in place with cell phone

791
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,840
um policies and so forth. So it was

792
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:55,760
interesting to know that the two primary

793
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:58,960
pieces of importance for

794
00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,240
parents certainly was that they really

795
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,039
wanted to make sure that they could

796
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,880
communicate um like the coordination of

797
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:07,120
drop off and pickup was one of the top

798
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:10,480
items but the reasons why the students

799
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,480
needed cell phone service and a device

800
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:17,039
and safety. Safety being the number one

801
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:18,880
item. Um, and you know, we as a school

802
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:20,960
district still have phones in

803
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,720
classrooms, phones in the offices. So,

804
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,200
prior to cell phones, that was really

805
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,279
the source of communication. I recognize

806
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,039
with school shootings and some

807
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:31,120
unfortunate incidences that really

808
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:34,080
increased the desire for parents to want

809
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:36,720
to be in contact. But certainly this law

810
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:39,840
is supporting that we've sort of come to

811
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:42,399
a point in schools where these cell

812
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,640
phone devices and their usage is

813
00:32:42,399 --> 00:32:47,360
becoming really a distraction to

814
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:51,760
learning and the law outlines that as

815
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:54,320
well. And so really what we did in this

816
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:57,279
policy committee is to think through

817
00:32:54,320 --> 00:33:02,320
what processes we already have in place.

818
00:32:57,279 --> 00:33:04,159
Um, we presented this information to a

819
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,880
group of parents in Spanish and in

820
00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:09,840
English and and walked through all of

821
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,840
the items through the survey and really

822
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,799
came to the realization that our schools

823
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:17,360
are doing the handling cell phone

824
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:20,559
collection pretty well. It's a little

825
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,640
bumpy. MIT and Kennedy um that have

826
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:24,480
larger middle school situations

827
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,720
certainly with MIT just rolling it out

828
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,519
recently that's been pretty bumpy. But

829
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,919
there are processes in place to have

830
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:33,840
students either have phones off in their

831
00:33:31,919 --> 00:33:36,320
backpacks or they are actually

832
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,480
physically collected and then returned

833
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,880
at the end of the day. There was one

834
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,200
item that we had that we noted in our

835
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,360
slide deck um a yonder pouch. It happens

836
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,960
to be just one brand where a student

837
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,039
essentially checks it in and then checks

838
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,120
it out at the end of the day. It's also

839
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:52,799
coordinated with afterchool program so

840
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,200
they're involved with this process as

841
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:57,120
well. So, in on one hand, we felt like

842
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,279
we were in pretty good shape with this

843
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,720
the information with the law, but it was

844
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:02,640
nice in the board policy committee

845
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:06,559
because we really discussed and and feel

846
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:11,119
free Jennifer and David to pipe in here

847
00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:13,520
that um we we appreciated the parents uh

848
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:15,440
contributions about the concerns of cell

849
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,839
phones either never being used in

850
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,639
school, not being used during

851
00:34:17,839 --> 00:34:22,159
instructional time, or only being used

852
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:23,679
during breaks, which would actually be

853
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:25,599
very difficult to advantage. If you

854
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:29,440
think about it, the other concern that

855
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:32,480
had popped up um was that in the primary

856
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,480
grades there was usage of games and and

857
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,800
not socializing, not running out and

858
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,560
playing at recess. Just kind of being on

859
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,119
your watch or on your phone, so to

860
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:43,040
speak, wasn't really what our desires

861
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:47,359
were for socialization and collaboration

862
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:48,960
in with students. Um, we also heard from

863
00:34:47,359 --> 00:34:52,079
a nice guest speaker who happened to be

864
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:56,240
in the audience tonight um, who spoke

865
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:58,320
really about um, how this can sort of be

866
00:34:56,240 --> 00:35:00,160
harm harmful socially. There's some

867
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,720
safety concerns and so forth. So, it was

868
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,839
a really nice discussion I thought uh,

869
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:08,240
of this stakeholder group that um, was

870
00:35:05,839 --> 00:35:10,079
on this call. And so with all of that

871
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:12,079
information and after that whole process

872
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:15,599
was complete, the board policy committee

873
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:18,000
met, took all of that into account and

874
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:20,320
that is how we arrived at this updated

875
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:23,640
board policy and ARS that are presented

876
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,640
to you tonight.

877
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,800
So we are here for discussion. Perfect.

878
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:30,880
Uh and oh, one more item I'd like to

879
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:34,320
add. I'm sorry. I do want us to be very

880
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:36,480
clear that this is um part one. We are

881
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:39,359
uh presenting this to you as an update,

882
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:41,599
but as we progress along the year, Dr.

883
00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:43,520
Baker really wants us to watch and

884
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:46,320
listen and learn to find out if anything

885
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,920
else needs to be modified because, as I

886
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,920
mentioned, it actually goes into effect

887
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,520
July 1st, 2026. We're doing this

888
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,040
somewhat early, but we'd like to get

889
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,520
sort of all the kinks, all the issues

890
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:58,640
worked out, uh making sure we're fully

891
00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:01,280
communicating to everybody. Um the

892
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,280
principles reacted pretty well to this.

893
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,880
We had them fill out a Google form. Is

894
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,200
it working? Is it not working? What are

895
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,960
your weekly concerns with cell phones?

896
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,800
It was very minimal except for our two

897
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,280
middle schools that still see about five

898
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,680
issues a week pop up. And part of the

899
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,440
problem is students not turning in their

900
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:21,119
phones, not putting their phones in

901
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:24,320
their backpacks. Um or saying, "I don't

902
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:25,520
have one," which is dishonest. But so

903
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,440
those are some things we need to work

904
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,200
out through our communication with

905
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,480
parents really. you know, we always

906
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,320
believe parents are partners, but

907
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,160
wanting to make sure that that is

908
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,520
solidified maybe more than it has been

909
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:40,720
in the past, sending out information um

910
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,400
and the reinforcement of the rules uh

911
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:44,480
that are in place at the school with the

912
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,920
staff, right? So, we're we're sort of

913
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,480
upping our game a little bit, but

914
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,400
knowing that this is somewhat of a pilot

915
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,400
year to work out these things. So, it

916
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:57,320
may come to you again next year once we

917
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,320
learn new things about this process.

918
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,480
Sounds good. And we do have two

919
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:04,839
speakers, one in the audience. So, we'll

920
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,839
start there with Mercedes Kuya.

921
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,520
Uh, there's a button on the left that

922
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,960
looks like a person and the light will

923
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,320
turn red. Perfect. You got it. Can you

924
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,240
hear me? Yeah. And you'll have three

925
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,839
minutes, which you'll see up on the TV

926
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:19,440
screen. Okay. All right. Thanks. I'm on.

927
00:37:17,839 --> 00:37:21,040
Okay. It's so good to see you all in

928
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,800
person. I'm Mercedes. I'm a child

929
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,040
psychiatrist. I think I've emailed all

930
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,560
of you. I'm also a parent of two middle

931
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,960
schoolers in the district, so this is

932
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,280
like a daily conversation. So, feels

933
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,280
very relevant to me. I really appreciate

934
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,880
the proactiveness that we're taking with

935
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,400
this. I think a pilot's great. Now, you

936
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,400
have all this great data that we can

937
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,119
compare to after you've implemented some

938
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:43,119
things. Um, I've shared a lot. I think

939
00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:44,960
the focus for me would be on the safety

940
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:46,880
piece because I think as a parent, as

941
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,720
staff, teachers, everyone, we shouldn't

942
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,480
have to worry about that, but it is a

943
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:52,079
daily concern we have when we drop our

944
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,920
kids off.

945
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:56,720
I think just keeping in mind there's

946
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,640
some growing data that actually having

947
00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:01,040
access to these devices can make the

948
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,720
classroom less safe. Um, and some of the

949
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,200
arguments there is that it can be a

950
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:06,960
distraction. If the students are texting

951
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,960
their parents, they might miss crucial

952
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,280
information of where they're going to

953
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,839
hide or what they need to be doing. So,

954
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,760
that would be important. It also if it

955
00:38:13,839 --> 00:38:17,599
buzzes or beeps or something that could

956
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,560
draw attention to where the students are

957
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:22,240
located. Um there's been some situations

958
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,400
where it's actually spread rumors that

959
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:26,000
have interfered with um the safety

960
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:29,280
personnel's ability to do what they need

961
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,880
to do. And then also parents, we are

962
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,400
wonderful, but also sometimes our

963
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,320
anxiety gets in our own way because then

964
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,800
we show up on campus and that has

965
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,240
actually gotten in the way of um safety

966
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,640
personnel trying to do what they need to

967
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:42,560
do to respond in the moment. So those

968
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,280
are just things I think to keep in mind.

969
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:47,520
Um, and that is also a hopefully

970
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,839
theoretical risk. Whereas we have a lot

971
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:52,079
of data about the daily harm that having

972
00:38:49,839 --> 00:38:55,359
these phones out is causing to our

973
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:56,960
students really quickly, you know, I can

974
00:38:55,359 --> 00:38:59,760
I've gathered some information for you

975
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,520
that in schools where smartphone bands

976
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,480
are in place, first of all, the students

977
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:06,079
are so grateful actually after about the

978
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,839
month of withdrawal. They are telling

979
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:09,440
their families like we're so glad that

980
00:39:07,839 --> 00:39:11,040
we don't have to be in this constant

981
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,359
struggle and that the school is deciding

982
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,280
for us and then we can just be free to

983
00:39:13,359 --> 00:39:16,720
be present and engaged and there's not

984
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,960
this like who's on their phone, who's

985
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:21,119
not, who's listening to music, whatever.

986
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,520
Um there's also evidence that there's an

987
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:26,079
improvement in grades when these phones

988
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,920
are, you know, not available and that

989
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:29,599
actually a significantly reduction in

990
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,040
the education achievement gap. So they

991
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:33,119
find those improvement in scores and

992
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,880
grades are specifically with the kids

993
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:37,520
lower SCEs or you know learning

994
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:40,480
differences. Um there's actually one

995
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,320
study that showed that banning phones

996
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,720
equivalent to an additional hour a week

997
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,640
in school of learning or five extra days

998
00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:48,560
per year. So I mean like that's really

999
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:51,680
impressive that we can get students

1000
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,880
engaged that much more. Um, there's also

1001
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,960
increase in engagement in the classroom,

1002
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,599
physical activity, and I think we all

1003
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,520
know, you know, you addressed this, but

1004
00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:01,200
cell phones are not only distraction,

1005
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,599
they aid in cheating. I've heard about

1006
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,440
it from my own 13-year-old. Um, they can

1007
00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:07,520
be used to violate privacy, and there is

1008
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,520
some d that there's increase in cyber

1009
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,880
bullying. So, I really appreciate that

1010
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,880
we're even talking about it. I know it's

1011
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:17,119
a really nuanced issue. So, thank you so

1012
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:18,720
much. Thank you, Mercedes. and perfect

1013
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:20,320
um and for providing that information

1014
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:23,040
and of course being engaged in the whole

1015
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:27,320
process. Um our next speaker is online

1016
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,320
on Zoom. It's Wyatt Hammond.

1017
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,440
Hello. Can you hear me? We can. And

1018
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:36,320
you'll have three minutes as well,

1019
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,760
Wyatt. All right. Terrific. Thank you. I

1020
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,320
appreciate you guys taking the time to

1021
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:43,119
to talk about this as well. As a general

1022
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:45,440
statement, I'll say that I I agree that

1023
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:48,320
cell phone use and access should be

1024
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:52,000
limited or or essentially banned during

1025
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:53,760
class and learning times. Um pockets,

1026
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,839
you know, on the door, similar to how

1027
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,680
the high school operates, I think these

1028
00:40:55,839 --> 00:41:00,880
are good ideas. I agree with the last

1029
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,560
speaker in a lot of ways. Um I struggle

1030
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,160
a little bit with the questionnaire

1031
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,319
because

1032
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:09,280
um what we what we provide our middle

1033
00:41:06,319 --> 00:41:11,520
school age daughter is a smartwatch

1034
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,599
um that we enable the school time

1035
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,680
function on and we give her the watch

1036
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:17,440
for multiple reasons but we live a

1037
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,040
couple miles away from the school at Roy

1038
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:22,400
Cloud. We're at the bottom of the hill

1039
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:24,880
down in the flat area. Um there's no

1040
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,200
good way to get here from there. There's

1041
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,920
uh no sidewalks down Jefferson. It's not

1042
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:33,119
safe for riding a bike. Her backpack

1043
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,560
weighs probably 30 pounds or more with

1044
00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:37,440
the books and the computer and

1045
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:39,760
everything else in it. So, we utilize

1046
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:43,680
program called hop, skip, drive to get

1047
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:46,640
her home. Um, and and the smartwatch is

1048
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:49,920
how she's able to know that her driver's

1049
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,839
there or not there. And if if not there,

1050
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,480
um, she has to figure out her her plan

1051
00:41:51,839 --> 00:41:56,640
B, plan C options on what she's going to

1052
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,960
do and how she's going to get home. She

1053
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:02,240
is a rising seventh grader. We actually

1054
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:05,200
kept her in uh kids' corner.

1055
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:08,720
She was the oldest kid by probably two

1056
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:10,480
grades. Um but we we just don't have a

1057
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:13,920
good way to get her down the hill. Um

1058
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,839
until we we came into this. So again, a

1059
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,560
lot of the questions were really like

1060
00:42:15,839 --> 00:42:20,800
cell phone related in my opinion. Um and

1061
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:25,359
I agree with with with a lot of those

1062
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:27,520
limits as I said. Um, but I want to talk

1063
00:42:25,359 --> 00:42:30,560
about or I just wanted to share this

1064
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,319
concern or this need um in addition to

1065
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,160
the safety and and and the school

1066
00:42:32,319 --> 00:42:36,079
shooting issues that we're that we hate

1067
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:39,359
to talk about and are and are also

1068
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:41,280
gravely concerned about. But um you know

1069
00:42:39,359 --> 00:42:43,599
that is why we give her a watch is we

1070
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,920
don't want her easily chatting doing

1071
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:48,160
games and and I realize a watch does

1072
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,680
enable a lot of those things but it also

1073
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,520
uh we shut it down with the school time.

1074
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,680
So I don't know if there's a way that

1075
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:57,640
the conversation can kind of bifurcate a

1076
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,640
little bit along those two technologies.

1077
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,800
Okay. Thank you. Uh thanks for sharing

1078
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:06,079
your perspective there.

1079
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:08,319
Um let's open this up to the board for

1080
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:09,680
discussion. Does anyone have uh

1081
00:43:08,319 --> 00:43:12,079
comments, questions or something to

1082
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:15,359
start off with? David. David Weekly.

1083
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:17,359
Yeah. So, I mean, I think Wyatt speaks a

1084
00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:19,680
lot of my mind that I feel like the when

1085
00:43:17,359 --> 00:43:21,680
it comes to phones and if we just to

1086
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,599
consider smartphones in particular, the

1087
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,200
evidence is pretty overwhelming, right?

1088
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:27,920
And so, and that that's actually the

1089
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,839
language that was used in AB3 2016 was

1090
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,760
explicitly about smartphones. They

1091
00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:34,240
didn't actually consider in that bill

1092
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,800
other kinds of communication devices,

1093
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:39,440
which are our our board policy here does

1094
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:42,240
kind of lump together those two things.

1095
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:44,400
So, I I feel like it would be

1096
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:47,359
interesting to tease that apart and to

1097
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,960
almost have separate conversations about

1098
00:43:47,359 --> 00:43:50,960
smartphones and what our policies are

1099
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,960
there. And I think, you know, Yonder

1100
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,240
pouches seem like a pretty reasonable

1101
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,920
take in terms of what to do there. I

1102
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:59,280
think I' I'd be very supportive of going

1103
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:01,359
that direction. Um, where I feel more on

1104
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,200
the fence is about smart watches. that a

1105
00:44:01,359 --> 00:44:05,760
lot of the parental concerns about being

1106
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,599
able to contact uh their kid be able to

1107
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:11,599
know where they are, be able to have the

1108
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:13,520
kid be able to call them um make sense

1109
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:15,280
to me. And at the same time, like it's a

1110
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,599
lot less distracting. There's a lot less

1111
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,040
surface area. Games are not super fun to

1112
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:20,720
play on a screen this small. I can't

1113
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,119
really watch cool videos on something

1114
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:24,880
this small. Uh you can't take pictures,

1115
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:26,640
right? So, privacy violations have

1116
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,520
become a lot smaller. That said, it

1117
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,359
could turn out that on a after review,

1118
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:35,359
after research, like we really do need

1119
00:44:31,359 --> 00:44:37,200
to crack down um on smart watches and

1120
00:44:35,359 --> 00:44:38,800
maybe even put them in the same category

1121
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,040
as smartphones, but I feel like it's

1122
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,119
nuanced enough that it deserves a

1123
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,839
different discussion. And I do feel like

1124
00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:47,359
both the poll and the language of the

1125
00:44:45,839 --> 00:44:51,440
board policy that's put in front of us

1126
00:44:47,359 --> 00:44:53,920
right now um consider them as equals and

1127
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,920
and sort of lump them together and and I

1128
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,680
I feel like that's not right. So, I I

1129
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,240
feel like we ought to have a discussion

1130
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:02,400
that's a little bit more nuanced about

1131
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:05,400
uh watches with cellular versus

1132
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,400
smartphones,

1133
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:10,960
right? Uh David Lee, you look like

1134
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:14,800
you're ready to jump in.

1135
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:16,720
Yeah, I I think part of my concern with

1136
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,280
teasing these things out is that I think

1137
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:20,960
the way it's intentionally phrased is to

1138
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,200
capture the possibility of additional

1139
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,920
devices coming in. And I little

1140
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,440
concerned about having the need to add

1141
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,440
another policy each time. So for

1142
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:32,400
example, if we don't have a policy, if

1143
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:34,319
we limit to phones and smart watches,

1144
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,599
then if there's like the smart glasses

1145
00:45:34,319 --> 00:45:37,280
for example, we need a third policy

1146
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:40,160
continuously and technologies obviously

1147
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:43,359
continue to evolve. Um when I think

1148
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:45,839
really the concern is we understand that

1149
00:45:43,359 --> 00:45:48,560
there are techn technology

1150
00:45:45,839 --> 00:45:50,000
devices that are causing distractions as

1151
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:53,599
well as other issues that have been

1152
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,960
mentioned and in the case of the um of

1153
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:56,319
what I just mentioned I actually think

1154
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,960
that that would be permitted under this

1155
00:45:56,319 --> 00:46:02,640
policy under one of the exceptions

1156
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:05,119
number two right so I I would think that

1157
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:07,040
we want to be flexible in understanding

1158
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:08,720
what the use cases are specifically for

1159
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,520
the exceptions but I I think the

1160
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:14,240
intention of the way that we shape this

1161
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:16,880
policy as proposed is to make clear that

1162
00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:18,960
there's a strong default against um

1163
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:21,760
these sorts of devices while still

1164
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:25,160
living leaving some flexibility. So for

1165
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,160
for discussion

1166
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:35,280
may I add one item? Yeah. So, um, just

1167
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:38,400
in honoring Wyatt's comments too, the

1168
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:40,000
idea, should smart watches be included

1169
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,359
or any other technology advice that

1170
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,160
comes to be? Because the the board

1171
00:46:41,359 --> 00:46:46,400
policy is mobile communication,

1172
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:49,760
communicating with assumingly some

1173
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:53,119
device outward um, or inward or texting

1174
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:56,000
or what have you. But if we are holding

1175
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:58,640
true to what we are doing, a cell phone

1176
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,480
and a smartwatch or or glasses or

1177
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:04,400
anything else that comes to be would

1178
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:06,319
still be collected, held and then

1179
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,480
returned at the end of the day so that

1180
00:47:06,319 --> 00:47:10,800
the transportation at home and so forth

1181
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,640
going home would help. I recognize that

1182
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,640
doesn't solve the school shooter

1183
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,200
situation, although we do have practices

1184
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:19,839
and safety plans and so forth in place

1185
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,520
for that. But to that point, I think it

1186
00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:24,720
the idea would be to collect in the

1187
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:27,280
morning and then return when the child

1188
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:28,560
would leave whatever comes to school.

1189
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:32,119
That would be considered a mobile

1190
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,119
communication device.

1191
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:38,319
One point of clarification, I I thought

1192
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:40,880
uh at least in my initial thinking about

1193
00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:42,480
the the policy, it was that could that

1194
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,760
could be one of the ways in which that

1195
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,480
this is enforced, right? The daily

1196
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:48,480
collection through whatever. I I thought

1197
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:52,640
we also wanted to leave room for the

1198
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:54,000
possibility of um of administrators to

1199
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,599
determine whether or not that is the

1200
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,280
most appropriate uh enforcement

1201
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:58,800
mechanism or if there are other ways. So

1202
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,720
I I think I had understood that there

1203
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,920
are some elementary schools that

1204
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:03,520
currently have kind of a self-

1205
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,720
enforcement policy and they don't seem

1206
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:08,640
to have the same issues. But yes, so I

1207
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:11,200
correct myself either collection or in

1208
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,560
your backpack. Okay. With the trust the

1209
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,400
trust that you're not going to take it

1210
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,319
out during the school hours. the

1211
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,319
elementary grades seem the principles

1212
00:48:16,319 --> 00:48:21,200
seem to be okay with that. They it seems

1213
00:48:18,319 --> 00:48:22,960
to be working. The kids are listening to

1214
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,720
the rules so to speak from what we

1215
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,160
understand. I think there might be a

1216
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:27,599
little bit more scrutiny certainly as we

1217
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,160
go forward in this next year of our

1218
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:32,240
pilot. Um and once again the

1219
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,079
communication more training reminders of

1220
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:36,079
rules. But in general for the elementary

1221
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:37,680
school the collection or excuse me the

1222
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:39,760
put it away in your backpack and then

1223
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,599
take it out after school is working. I

1224
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:44,880
think for the upper grades, maybe upper

1225
00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:46,880
elementary possibly or even u middle

1226
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,880
school, certainly middle school, the

1227
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,640
collection is a better way to go. That's

1228
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,319
what they've been doing at least. Yeah,

1229
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,920
thank you for that. But Wendy, I think

1230
00:48:52,319 --> 00:48:55,440
when we got the feedback from the

1231
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,000
principles, and correct me if I remember

1232
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,920
this incorrectly, we saw in the in the

1233
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:02,160
elementary schools, everyone was putting

1234
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:03,520
their watches in the backpack, but were

1235
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:06,880
they being collected in the middle

1236
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:09,680
schools? It was just phones, right?

1237
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,440
Right. So it right now it's just phones.

1238
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,119
So they still the middle schools still

1239
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,880
have their watch on them. We have three

1240
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:17,440
schools that are using yonder but the

1241
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:19,520
other schools are using other

1242
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,440
tube school sorry using yonder but still

1243
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:25,200
a collection method whether it's in a

1244
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:27,040
bin in the office. Um, the high schools,

1245
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,760
I think, as the speaker mentioned, have

1246
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,280
almost like a sho a hanging shoe rack

1247
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,640
with a number and you have a student

1248
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,640
number and you go and you just put your

1249
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,319
phone in, but and that might work for

1250
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,920
sort of a self-contained situation, but

1251
00:49:36,319 --> 00:49:39,520
when you have kids moving from class to

1252
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,200
class, that might be difficult. But

1253
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:44,880
anyway, be that as that may, the

1254
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:48,440
collection process is is in place now at

1255
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,440
the middle school level.

1256
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:53,520
And then I just want to I guess there's

1257
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:55,440
two things that I wanted to clarify. Um

1258
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:58,319
the pickup it it sounds like the

1259
00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:01,119
students going to have their devices

1260
00:49:58,319 --> 00:50:03,119
back at pickup time. And so if that is

1261
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:04,800
to be used for coordination, which we

1262
00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:07,280
saw in the survey results or we heard

1263
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,359
from our speaker tonight, that shouldn't

1264
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,880
be impeded by this policy. It's really

1265
00:50:09,359 --> 00:50:12,319
about what's happening during the school

1266
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,480
day. Um and they should be able to

1267
00:50:12,319 --> 00:50:16,240
coordinate with their ride down the hill

1268
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,079
in this case or their parent pickup if

1269
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:20,160
they're around the corner or whatever.

1270
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:21,920
Correct. So it would be what it would

1271
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,000
look like. And what it looks like now in

1272
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,880
these situations is a student walks into

1273
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,960
school, they go to that identified

1274
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:31,760
location to drop off their device, they

1275
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:33,520
drop it off at the end of the day of the

1276
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,760
school day when the last period is over.

1277
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:39,119
They pick it up or the device goes to

1278
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:40,880
the afterchool program who collects it,

1279
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:42,400
the adults in the after school program,

1280
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,160
and then they disperse it when the child

1281
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:47,040
leaves at the end end of the day, six

1282
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,720
o'clock or what have you. Yeah. Okay.

1283
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,200
Yeah, that makes sense. And then the

1284
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:52,800
other one was on on smart watches. Um I

1285
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,480
don't I don't own a smartwatch, so I

1286
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:57,200
can't speak from firsthand experience,

1287
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,680
but I can speak from like observing it.

1288
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,920
And man, they seem pretty distracting to

1289
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,280
me, too. Um I know that the people that

1290
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,200
I see wearing them are constantly

1291
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,280
checking the notifications and the

1292
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,040
messages that are on there. So, they

1293
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,880
really do feel like in the class of

1294
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,200
mobile communication device, that would

1295
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:15,280
be um the sort of thing. And if you're

1296
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,599
thinking about that, we would want to

1297
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,520
limit during the school day. Um, if

1298
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:21,359
you're thinking about like why we would

1299
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:24,319
do that, it's not just the distractions,

1300
00:51:21,359 --> 00:51:25,839
but the, you know, the side channel

1301
00:51:24,319 --> 00:51:28,400
communication that's hard to be able to

1302
00:51:25,839 --> 00:51:29,760
monitor from the adults in the room, um,

1303
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,400
to ensure that everybody's having

1304
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,760
healthy, happy conversations. Um, so I

1305
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,520
feel like they do fit into the same

1306
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,440
class and I really appreciate Trusty

1307
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,880
Lee's comment about we don't want to

1308
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,880
have to come and litigate every single

1309
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,880
device. It's really a a characteristic

1310
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:46,680
in classes of devices that are doing it

1311
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,680
as technology changes.

1312
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:52,079
This is um I don't know Cecilia, did you

1313
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:57,680
want? Yeah, I just wanted to say um I I

1314
00:51:52,079 --> 00:52:00,720
I agree with um what David Lee said. Um

1315
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:02,319
I also don't own a smartwatch and my

1316
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:05,119
kids didn't get watches. I mean, I'm

1317
00:52:02,319 --> 00:52:08,319
sorry, didn't get phones till 8th grade

1318
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:09,760
and freshman year. So, when they were in

1319
00:52:08,319 --> 00:52:11,280
elementary, I was like, I'm dropping you

1320
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,839
off. I'm picking you off. They shouldn't

1321
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:16,000
be a problem, right? Um, and then as far

1322
00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:18,319
as what we're going to do, I think too

1323
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,680
is if we want to say we want to trust

1324
00:52:18,319 --> 00:52:21,599
the students to have them in their

1325
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,880
backpack, and if they don't, at one

1326
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:26,720
point they're going to probably get

1327
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:29,040
collected from the teacher and kept in

1328
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:31,200
the office. So hopefully the students

1329
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,640
would learn that if they want to be

1330
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,319
trusted with their cell phones, they

1331
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,520
would keep them in their backpacks if

1332
00:52:34,319 --> 00:52:39,599
that's the way we want to go. Um but I

1333
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,920
um

1334
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:45,040
I'm fine with and I totally agree with

1335
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:49,440
what um the

1336
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:52,720
policy says and um again when they're

1337
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:57,319
younger I feel they should be learning

1338
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:57,319
in the classroom with no disruptions.

1339
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,240
to um when we when we do post the

1340
00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:08,079
policy, I think Dr. Baker, in the first

1341
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:10,400
parent session, you gave them examples

1342
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:13,200
of our safety policy. I think that would

1343
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:15,839
also help kind of alleviate concerns to

1344
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:18,480
know what the school safety situations

1345
00:53:15,839 --> 00:53:21,119
are. Correct. And each school has a

1346
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:24,400
safety plan. And matter of fact, one of

1347
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:28,640
the um issues that was brought up, I was

1348
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:30,800
at the um Spanish speaking uh meeting

1349
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:33,119
and the parent was really concerned in

1350
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:36,079
regard to

1351
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:37,599
uh being at at after school. You're

1352
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:39,040
after school and they're in after school

1353
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:42,079
program and there's an incident that

1354
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:44,880
takes place and they not able to get a

1355
00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:46,640
holder child. I go, "All right, were you

1356
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,319
here several years ago when something

1357
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:52,319
like that just happened?" And I went

1358
00:53:48,319 --> 00:53:55,119
through that that um experience that

1359
00:53:52,319 --> 00:53:56,720
took place at the school site. And I

1360
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:58,240
said, "You were here." And she goes,

1361
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:59,599
"Yes, I was." All right. Do you

1362
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:01,760
remember? Can you tell me what the

1363
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:04,319
district did to inform you and make you

1364
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,559
aware that your child was safe not to

1365
00:54:04,319 --> 00:54:10,559
come to school? Don't worry about your

1366
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:12,800
child. Once we are um allowed to release

1367
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:15,359
children, we will notify you in the same

1368
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:18,319
fashion. And we did it several times by

1369
00:54:15,359 --> 00:54:20,800
text, by email, by phone call. We did it

1370
00:54:18,319 --> 00:54:23,440
during that. I think it was a 2 and 1/2

1371
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:26,480
hour period. We were notifying parents

1372
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:28,800
every 30 minutes. And so the parent was

1373
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:32,079
relieved. Yes, I remember that. So you

1374
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:34,160
can disregard my comment.

1375
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:36,880
And we'd have that in place at each of

1376
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:38,720
our school sites.

1377
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,720
I guess building I think to the same

1378
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:42,000
point and maybe we're getting ahead of

1379
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:43,839
ourselves because I know this is just

1380
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,119
first readings of just discussion but if

1381
00:54:43,839 --> 00:54:47,040
this were to come into place it does

1382
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:48,640
seem like from the slides and the data

1383
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:52,000
there's a pretty substantial concern

1384
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:53,680
over safety uh and what those cause. I I

1385
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,480
imagine I know it's not exactly policy

1386
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,680
but the plan I think I think Wendy you

1387
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,160
might have mentioned would be to like

1388
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,520
pretty clearly at first a day pack or

1389
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,079
whatever make sure that all the families

1390
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:06,000
know hey this is specifically one you

1391
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:08,720
know this the policy on cell mobile

1392
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,640
communication devices alto

1393
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:12,000
safety here's how it's going to be dealt

1394
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,040
with so you're aware and here's how

1395
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,800
we've actually had it play out in the

1396
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,400
past is that right that's correct and

1397
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:19,440
plus it's going to be in the welcome

1398
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:23,520
back piece too on so it's going to get

1399
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:25,200
about multiple methods.

1400
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,400
Okay.

1401
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,720
Yeah, thanks for bringing that up

1402
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:31,280
because I I mean I I strongly support

1403
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:32,880
not allowing phones, mobilei

1404
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,160
communication devices during the school

1405
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,400
day. It just seems like a real

1406
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:38,000
distraction and can take away. Um I want

1407
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,440
to thank Mercedes for presenting the

1408
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,079
some of the evidence and discussing

1409
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:44,240
about that about the benefits of it. Um,

1410
00:55:42,079 --> 00:55:46,400
but I we should address the concerns

1411
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:48,319
that people have around it and make sure

1412
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,920
that they're heard um and that we

1413
00:55:48,319 --> 00:55:52,400
understand what they are and how the

1414
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:54,880
school uh handles that because they are

1415
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,160
legitimate concerns um that that they

1416
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,440
have and we should be we should

1417
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,319
acknowledge them and make sure that

1418
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:02,960
they're being addressed. Um the one

1419
00:56:00,319 --> 00:56:04,640
thing I was was wondering was originally

1420
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,319
when I first read the policy over the

1421
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,480
weekend was sort of, you know, what

1422
00:56:06,319 --> 00:56:09,359
would we see changes in behavior? or

1423
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,480
like is there anything that we're

1424
00:56:09,359 --> 00:56:12,480
already measuring that we'd be able to

1425
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,480
catch it even if it's anecdotal. I know

1426
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,000
Mercedes spoke about a bunch of those

1427
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,559
things tonight. So even if we don't have

1428
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,799
empirical uh evidence, I'm hoping that

1429
00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:22,240
next year we'll hear from the principles

1430
00:56:20,799 --> 00:56:24,480
as we're collecting over the course of

1431
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:25,920
the year about what sort of changes

1432
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,599
they're seeing either in behavior,

1433
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,839
engagement, are they getting five days

1434
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:32,720
back, 10 days, one day, like those kind

1435
00:56:29,839 --> 00:56:34,640
of things. Um I think that's uh that'll

1436
00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:36,799
be really positive. Um and the other one

1437
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:39,599
is of course phones aren't going away.

1438
00:56:36,799 --> 00:56:41,280
um or mobile communication devices. Um

1439
00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:43,359
so a real success is teaching

1440
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,359
responsible use as well, not just not

1441
00:56:43,359 --> 00:56:46,960
just banning. Um I know that's not part

1442
00:56:45,359 --> 00:56:48,480
of the policy here or even part of the

1443
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,400
ARS, but I don't know if something like

1444
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,000
that could be folded in. I'm not even

1445
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,440
sure how to consider that or folded in,

1446
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,119
but it was something that I was thinking

1447
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,040
about of like, you know, just taking it

1448
00:56:55,119 --> 00:56:59,839
away is one thing, but really teaching

1449
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:02,079
responsible use would be, you know, kind

1450
00:56:59,839 --> 00:57:04,160
of an even better outcome. And I think

1451
00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:06,480
that includes like what is our preferred

1452
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,960
stance? like what do we think the ideal

1453
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,559
world looks like in terms of you know at

1454
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,520
what age do we think it's appropriate

1455
00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:15,599
that somebody gets a phone? When do we

1456
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,359
think that it's appropriate to nudge

1457
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:19,280
parents towards have you thought about

1458
00:57:17,359 --> 00:57:21,040
if you are thinking about getting them a

1459
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,640
phone for the following set of reasons?

1460
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:26,160
Have you considered maybe getting them a

1461
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:28,880
smartwatch instead? Right. Um, and do we

1462
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:31,839
put language like that into a policy

1463
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:33,680
that the the district is going to try to

1464
00:57:31,839 --> 00:57:36,160
nudge things in the direction of the

1465
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,839
best possible outcome for the student?

1466
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,839
Um, yeah, I don't know if that would go

1467
00:57:37,839 --> 00:57:40,960
into the policy or so. Like that's why I

1468
00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:42,400
was saying I don't know how this would

1469
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,680
actually get filled it in to what the

1470
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,319
best thing is. But the one thing I'm

1471
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:50,240
pretty certain about is that um for

1472
00:57:46,319 --> 00:57:52,720
these to be the these commun phones

1473
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:55,760
smartwatches um they're there's they're

1474
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:58,079
so powerful and invasive in you know our

1475
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:00,319
daily society that unless there's an

1476
00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:02,960
externality that's kind of removing them

1477
00:58:00,319 --> 00:58:06,240
then it's they're just it's there's such

1478
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:08,319
pressure to bring that in just so and we

1479
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,480
are that externality. Exactly. That's

1480
00:58:08,319 --> 00:58:14,079
why this is an important policy to do.

1481
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:16,400
Right. Right. And and so just um I think

1482
00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:19,119
there is a component of parent

1483
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:21,920
communication and collective expectation

1484
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:23,680
like this sets expectation for like uh

1485
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:28,319
our area of jurisdiction which is the

1486
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:30,240
school sites, right? Um but

1487
00:58:28,319 --> 00:58:32,400
there are things for which we have

1488
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:36,160
opinions that we offer guidance to

1489
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:38,480
parents around, right? Um, and so where

1490
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,640
do we put those things where this is the

1491
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:42,240
stance of the district? This is our

1492
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,599
preferred outcome and yeah, you get to

1493
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:46,240
do what you want to do, but if you're

1494
00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:48,079
looking for advice um from the district

1495
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:50,160
on what would be best for your kid, like

1496
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:51,760
here's here's some material that we have

1497
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,280
on this. Yeah. I don't know if we have

1498
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,440
that. I don't know if anyone's put that

1499
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,680
together as like a it's kind of like the

1500
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,200
same thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's common

1501
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,839
sense media and then also common sense

1502
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,760
media. also the information that we all

1503
00:59:01,839 --> 00:59:07,040
garner from professionals such as

1504
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:10,720
Mercedes and others in the field that um

1505
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:12,559
make recommendations to to um I must say

1506
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,400
the pediatricians to parents when

1507
00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:17,200
they're meeting with them in regarding

1508
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:19,119
to mobile devices. My nephew who's a

1509
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:21,599
pediatrician I know was his stance on it

1510
00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:23,680
and the recommendations he makes based

1511
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:26,079
off of a lot of research and data that

1512
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:28,640
they've collected at UCSF.

1513
00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:30,319
So, um I mean it really wouldn't

1514
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,000
surprise me if it ended up into like

1515
00:59:30,319 --> 00:59:33,920
health curriculum mandated by the state

1516
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,599
as it gets up and older kind of put it

1517
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,200
in like so many other things that come

1518
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:38,720
around it. But yeah, I don't know if

1519
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,400
Anna wanted to speak to this, but

1520
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:43,359
there's standards called the ISTY

1521
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:46,240
standards and the T is technology and

1522
00:59:43,359 --> 00:59:49,280
that does include education for students

1523
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:51,040
on SA internet safety, other safety, use

1524
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:54,160
of technology,

1525
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:56,799
um some of the harms. Um so there's all

1526
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:59,680
kinds of lessons that are delivered um

1527
00:59:56,799 --> 01:00:01,200
within that u within those standards

1528
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,680
that the teachers have and they're

1529
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:06,480
outlined by grade level too. So I think

1530
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,680
it is a nice nod forward with with some

1531
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,000
of the work, but it's really a

1532
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:12,960
partnership. You know, when you have a a

1533
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:15,119
family decision on on use of mobile

1534
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:17,680
devices in your home, you know, the

1535
01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:20,880
school is either compatible with those

1536
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:22,720
that thinking or possibly against it. Um

1537
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,480
I know the first sentence of this board

1538
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,760
policy, the governing board recognizes

1539
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,079
student use of smartphones and other

1540
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,680
mobile communications on device um could

1541
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:30,960
be harmful and disruptive to the

1542
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,799
instructional program in some

1543
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,119
circumstance. I recognize that doesn't

1544
01:00:32,799 --> 01:00:37,359
that's not strong about one opinion or

1545
01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:38,960
another, but it is really speaking about

1546
01:00:37,359 --> 01:00:41,680
the value of the time during the

1547
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:45,520
instructional day and how we want to

1548
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:47,520
prioritize, you know, non non- tech uses

1549
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,040
for tech sake. And I also sort of want

1550
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:51,920
to be clear about what we're talking

1551
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:54,079
about free time using your cell phone

1552
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:56,319
and other games or what have you.

1553
01:00:54,079 --> 01:00:58,000
Possibly using it as a research device,

1554
01:00:56,319 --> 01:01:00,960
although not needed because we have

1555
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:04,480
plenty of devices, laptops, etc. in the

1556
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:08,720
classroom. Um, at recess, it can come

1557
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:10,000
out sneakily with videotaping people.

1558
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,599
That's a whole another issue. So, when

1559
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:14,160
you're asking about data about whether

1560
01:01:11,599 --> 01:01:16,400
this policy is going to progress forward

1561
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:19,200
and what some of our changes will be, we

1562
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:22,160
already see data on things surrounding

1563
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:24,720
tech devices like this uh mobile

1564
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,559
communication. The videotaping for sure

1565
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:30,000
is in the disciplinary logs of some

1566
01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:31,839
schools. Um and and has been in years

1567
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,160
past. I think things are tightening up,

1568
01:01:31,839 --> 01:01:35,440
but there's still it creeps up. Um

1569
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,440
things that are recorded in the

1570
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,680
bathroom, right? I I put my cell phone

1571
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:42,480
in my my pants and I go into the

1572
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:44,559
bathroom. Um games and sort of

1573
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:46,400
antisocial behavior that then has

1574
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:47,839
problems with friendships that lead into

1575
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,520
the classroom. I mean, so these are

1576
01:01:47,839 --> 01:01:50,559
outside of just the instructional time.

1577
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,640
some of the other things that we're

1578
01:01:50,559 --> 01:01:55,119
seeing and have been noted in

1579
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:57,839
disciplinary behavior logs and so forth

1580
01:01:55,119 --> 01:01:59,839
with appropriate consequences and

1581
01:01:57,839 --> 01:02:01,839
instructional learnings about it. So it

1582
01:01:59,839 --> 01:02:04,319
could be let's go back to a common sense

1583
01:02:01,839 --> 01:02:06,400
media lesson. Let's figure out why that

1584
01:02:04,319 --> 01:02:08,079
caused harm. Oh, cyber bullying. Let's

1585
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,480
let's review that. So there's an

1586
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:13,359
educational component as well when when

1587
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:15,200
things happen. Um, but the goal would

1588
01:02:13,359 --> 01:02:17,520
be, you know, with tightening it down,

1589
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:20,160
better communication, the teachers

1590
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:22,079
really, you know, being a little bit

1591
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,480
more firm than possibly have, wiping out

1592
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:25,760
the free time with the cell phone piece,

1593
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,160
you know, five minutes at the end of the

1594
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:30,079
day or what have you. Those are all, you

1595
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:32,000
know, ways to progress forward and we'll

1596
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:33,440
see, you know, as we progress along with

1597
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,880
our little dipsticks that we're going to

1598
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,480
have. I mean, I feel like people could

1599
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,480
really benefit just from clarity,

1600
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,880
though. It's like we think as a matter

1601
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:43,599
of policy it's a bad idea for elementary

1602
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:46,960
school students to own a cellular phone.

1603
01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:48,720
Like full stop. Look if if Right. And

1604
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,960
it's just like we could put that in as a

1605
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:53,200
sentence, right? And look, if you if you

1606
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:55,839
need location, if you need security, if

1607
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:58,079
you need communication, hey, maybe

1608
01:02:55,839 --> 01:03:00,000
consider getting a smartwatch. Don't

1609
01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:02,559
wear it during the school day. It's

1610
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:04,400
disruptive. Um, you know, we don't think

1611
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:06,400
it adds to the educational experience.

1612
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,240
There's a bunch of downsides to it. So,

1613
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,920
we're we're going to have students turn

1614
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,680
it off and keep it in their backpack.

1615
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,440
Um, but it'll be there for emergencies

1616
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,799
and it's there for like pickup and drop

1617
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,119
off. But for the love of God, don't get

1618
01:03:14,799 --> 01:03:19,200
your kid a phone. Right. I mean, I I I

1619
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:21,039
think like we we we're dancing around it

1620
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:24,079
in the language here. And if if parents

1621
01:03:21,039 --> 01:03:26,480
aren't getting clear directive from the

1622
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:28,240
district about our expectation for the

1623
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,839
students overall educational

1624
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:32,559
environment, which includes what happens

1625
01:03:29,839 --> 01:03:34,559
when they leave our campus, I I I think

1626
01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:35,760
they're they're going to give give in to

1627
01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:37,200
defaults. they don't want to be the

1628
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,359
uncool parent. So, I think it would be

1629
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:42,799
helpful to give them clarity. And to

1630
01:03:39,359 --> 01:03:45,039
that point, this bill, this AB 3216

1631
01:03:42,799 --> 01:03:46,720
clearly lays out is the governing

1632
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:51,680
board's

1633
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:53,839
uh community community um representation

1634
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:55,920
of what our community believes is

1635
01:03:53,839 --> 01:03:57,599
important, which is why the survey was

1636
01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:00,880
great to see, right? You saw, I think it

1637
01:03:57,599 --> 01:04:02,799
was over 75% or what have you. Excuse

1638
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:05,119
me. Crystal clear. Crystal clear, right?

1639
01:04:02,799 --> 01:04:08,240
I mean, it was firm. um in in a large

1640
01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:09,760
percentage. And so that's, you know,

1641
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,599
like all board policies, but certainly

1642
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,280
this one, there's sort of this allowance

1643
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:15,760
and acceptance for the board to really

1644
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:17,200
put their spin on what they think is

1645
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,119
important to be in this board policy

1646
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:23,440
specifically, aside from like a typical

1647
01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:26,400
CSEA read, CSA, excuse me, CSBA read of

1648
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:28,799
of what this what this is. So, it is an

1649
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:31,119
opportunity to do that.

1650
01:04:28,799 --> 01:04:33,359
Can can I just add in um thinking about

1651
01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:35,920
watches having been at the elementary

1652
01:04:33,359 --> 01:04:37,599
level and not too long ago being seen at

1653
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,359
the sites.

1654
01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:41,359
I think the smart watches really do

1655
01:04:39,359 --> 01:04:43,119
affect the little ones and we have a lot

1656
01:04:41,359 --> 01:04:45,359
of little ones that have smart watches.

1657
01:04:43,119 --> 01:04:46,799
You can see them.

1658
01:04:45,359 --> 01:04:48,799
You know, they're they're tinier and

1659
01:04:46,799 --> 01:04:50,240
they're smaller and they're definitely

1660
01:04:48,799 --> 01:04:52,079
I've asked several like what are you

1661
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,440
doing? I'm playing my game right now.

1662
01:04:52,079 --> 01:04:55,440
And I'm like but you're in class. You

1663
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:58,720
need to turn that off. So you do see it

1664
01:04:55,440 --> 01:05:00,559
in the elementary level. um as much as

1665
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:02,799
it's a distraction for us as adults, but

1666
01:05:00,559 --> 01:05:04,319
you do I think our younger kids tend to

1667
01:05:02,799 --> 01:05:06,400
have them more. I've seen them more and

1668
01:05:04,319 --> 01:05:08,079
more in the elementary level. Little

1669
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,720
first graders and second grade, even

1670
01:05:08,079 --> 01:05:12,480
kindergarten have some. I know. I know.

1671
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,160
But they're still there, right? And it

1672
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:17,359
it does cause a And there are parents

1673
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:19,520
who can, you know, do those controls so

1674
01:05:17,359 --> 01:05:20,880
that they're not on during the day, but

1675
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:23,359
not everybody does it. I think that's

1676
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:25,920
the education part. parents need to know

1677
01:05:23,359 --> 01:05:28,559
how do we turn these off during the day

1678
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:30,799
so that during the school hours it's not

1679
01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:32,559
that distraction and I think we want to

1680
01:05:30,799 --> 01:05:34,240
educate that's the way to go how do we

1681
01:05:32,559 --> 01:05:36,079
educate and really teach that because

1682
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:38,799
that's a whole other level especially

1683
01:05:36,079 --> 01:05:40,960
for the little ones um older kids are

1684
01:05:38,799 --> 01:05:44,160
very savvy and we'll learn around it

1685
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:46,160
having had a child who did that myself

1686
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,760
so I know they're very savvy you know

1687
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,520
they learned they don't need the phone

1688
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,280
they can use the computer and they learn

1689
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,680
to chat on the computer our kids are

1690
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:55,680
very savvy savvy nowadays. But I do

1691
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,359
think we have to think about how do we

1692
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:59,280
educate the families about if you're

1693
01:05:57,359 --> 01:06:01,200
going to have a smartwatch, how do you

1694
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:03,520
turn it off so that the settings during

1695
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:07,039
the day are not coming on and children

1696
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:08,880
can't don't have access to playing. So

1697
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:13,000
not against smartwatches, but I do think

1698
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:13,000
there that we have to educate.

1699
01:06:15,599 --> 01:06:20,079
All right. Um should we wrap this up?

1700
01:06:17,599 --> 01:06:22,720
Any other comments, questions?

1701
01:06:20,079 --> 01:06:24,720
Okay, one more. Sorry, very quickly. It

1702
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:26,319
I just want to say thank you for like

1703
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:28,559
all the work that you guys have done in

1704
01:06:26,319 --> 01:06:29,839
Dr. Baker and Wendy and Mercedes,

1705
01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:30,799
everyone in the stewardship for this

1706
01:06:29,839 --> 01:06:32,000
because like it's super important

1707
01:06:30,799 --> 01:06:34,319
obviously because we're having this full

1708
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:36,720
this very large discussion about it. Um

1709
01:06:34,319 --> 01:06:38,240
the survey data I know it looks like one

1710
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,760
slide deck and it's a very small policy

1711
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,119
but I clearly there was a lot of work

1712
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,520
that went into it. So I just want to say

1713
01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:45,839
thank you for that.

1714
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:47,520
Yeah, I agree and doing it a year ahead

1715
01:06:45,839 --> 01:06:49,440
so that we can have a year before

1716
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,440
implementation has to come in and put it

1717
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:53,039
in. I know that we had the policy in

1718
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,400
place, but tightening it up and really

1719
01:06:53,039 --> 01:06:56,400
looking at how it's being implemented

1720
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,920
across the different sites to make sure

1721
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,920
that we're we're doing the best for our

1722
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:02,319
students. So, thank you. I would like

1723
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:04,640
some closure on um Trustee Weekly's

1724
01:07:02,319 --> 01:07:06,079
comment if we if the board is interested

1725
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,440
in adding because that would be

1726
01:07:06,079 --> 01:07:10,240
something I would need to bring a second

1727
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:12,799
reading for next time. Do we want a sort

1728
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:17,039
of a firmer statement

1729
01:07:12,799 --> 01:07:18,640
um that represents the survey data where

1730
01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:20,799
personally I don't think I could

1731
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,799
advocate for that at this time. I would

1732
01:07:20,799 --> 01:07:25,280
want to consider it. Um, I can think of

1733
01:07:22,799 --> 01:07:27,520
numerous cases where having a phone is

1734
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:29,280
beneficial for a student. Um, both in

1735
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,799
having like, for example, the tra

1736
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,799
translation app with them if they need

1737
01:07:30,799 --> 01:07:34,880
to be able to use it outside of it or

1738
01:07:32,799 --> 01:07:36,400
perhaps um, the language of the policy

1739
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,240
talks about maybe they need it for their

1740
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,400
IEP or they're using it for health

1741
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:42,000
monitoring because they have, you know,

1742
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,359
some medical device that's attached to

1743
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,680
their phone and they need to be able to

1744
01:07:43,359 --> 01:07:47,039
use it. So, I would really would not I

1745
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:49,760
would recommend that we don't try and

1746
01:07:47,039 --> 01:07:51,920
add that into the policy right now um

1747
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:54,079
until we have a much longer time to be

1748
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:55,760
able to I would like time to at least be

1749
01:07:54,079 --> 01:07:58,880
able to research that if we were to go

1750
01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:00,960
in and say um into the policy something

1751
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,559
along the lines of for the quote for the

1752
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:06,799
love of God don't get your child a

1753
01:08:02,559 --> 01:08:09,119
phone. Um, so precise language I think

1754
01:08:06,799 --> 01:08:11,119
should be important. Um, I I I you know,

1755
01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:13,599
like yes, I think that there's generally

1756
01:08:11,119 --> 01:08:15,440
speaking like some solid solid advice in

1757
01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:17,120
that. Um, but I just don't know that I

1758
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:19,040
think there's a lot of nuance in it. Um,

1759
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:21,679
that I just don't have the time to be

1760
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:24,640
able to u consider this evening. I don't

1761
01:08:21,679 --> 01:08:27,199
know about anybody else.

1762
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,640
Um, same thing. I was going to say not

1763
01:08:27,199 --> 01:08:31,120
necessarily write it on the board

1764
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:33,040
policy, but I mean we could again on the

1765
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,640
first day of school packet or whatever.

1766
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,560
I mean at the end of the day parents are

1767
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,679
going to want it do whatever they're

1768
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,520
going to want to do and at the end of

1769
01:08:37,679 --> 01:08:41,600
the day it's going to be whether their

1770
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:45,199
phone is going to be in the backpack

1771
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:46,560
turned off or put in a pouch. Um,

1772
01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:49,600
obviously they're going to follow the

1773
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:51,920
policy, but as far as

1774
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:55,199
it's it's almost like the I don't know

1775
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:57,679
teaching of the parents, that's I don't

1776
01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:59,520
see why that should be written on the

1777
01:08:57,679 --> 01:09:01,600
policy. So, I think it would have to be

1778
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:03,359
something more of, you know,

1779
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,279
notification

1780
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:09,239
um to the parent and then they can

1781
01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:09,239
decide what they want to do.

1782
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:17,600
Well, I think we kind of already are

1783
01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:20,159
moving towards a more no phone. That's

1784
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:22,239
what we want to go direction. So, I

1785
01:09:20,159 --> 01:09:23,679
think by striking out beneficial, we're

1786
01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:25,279
already moving in there. Let's see how

1787
01:09:23,679 --> 01:09:27,120
it goes this year and then we can firm

1788
01:09:25,279 --> 01:09:29,759
it up if we if it's not working at the

1789
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:31,440
schools.

1790
01:09:29,759 --> 01:09:33,199
I think I'm in the same spot. I'm a

1791
01:09:31,440 --> 01:09:34,880
little bit torn. I'm not against the

1792
01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:37,600
idea of it eventually, but I'd like

1793
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:39,440
trusty Wells, I'd like to get more

1794
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,719
thought into it of like what that

1795
01:09:39,440 --> 01:09:42,159
language looks like because I think

1796
01:09:40,719 --> 01:09:44,480
you're right like we have responsibility

1797
01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:47,279
to like advocate for what we believe the

1798
01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:48,799
actual policy is. Um I'm not sure I'm

1799
01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:50,480
clear beyond the scope of like the

1800
01:09:48,799 --> 01:09:52,400
school site jurisdiction what that

1801
01:09:50,480 --> 01:09:55,280
necessarily looks like, but something to

1802
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:57,520
revisit.

1803
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:59,840
And like the the I just want to thank

1804
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,840
you all because we didn't have to go

1805
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:03,920
forward with this at this point in time.

1806
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:06,480
So this is going to allow us a year to

1807
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:09,440
really look at it and then possibly

1808
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:11,920
bring it back and tweak again.

1809
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:13,440
So you know thank you all of you and

1810
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,280
Mercedes. Thank you so much for being

1811
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:18,000
proactive and doing everything you did.

1812
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:19,760
I really appreciate it.

1813
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,600
Wendy, are you planning on sending out

1814
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,280
that principal survey like on a regular

1815
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:26,640
cadence or kind of what are we going to

1816
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:28,880
be monitoring for

1817
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:31,280
the actual cell phone survey itself like

1818
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:33,040
we did last time? Yeah. Or we got the

1819
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,640
feedback from the principles on like how

1820
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,320
many they had or what their issues were

1821
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,600
or how it was going. Yes. No,

1822
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,960
definitely. So, there'll be a few

1823
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,719
tracking systems that we're going to

1824
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:44,800
look at. certainly the anecdotal but

1825
01:10:40,719 --> 01:10:46,400
then the disciplinary logs where maybe

1826
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,679
and we do have schools that are still

1827
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,920
rolling it out and they're in their

1828
01:10:47,679 --> 01:10:50,960
early phases and we expect that but we

1829
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,960
do have schools that have been using

1830
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:56,000
nonder patches for I think two years now

1831
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:58,320
like Clifford so you know we have some

1832
01:10:56,000 --> 01:11:00,239
more experts in that area and it's still

1833
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,679
not perfect I think our our biggest

1834
01:11:00,239 --> 01:11:03,360
hurdle in those situations with the

1835
01:11:01,679 --> 01:11:04,719
yonder patches is students actually

1836
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,880
relinquishing their phone at the

1837
01:11:04,719 --> 01:11:08,640
beginning of the day and that you know a

1838
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,400
parent partnership a stronger parent

1839
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:13,199
partnership to sort of support that at

1840
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:14,960
home is usually the best course and then

1841
01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:17,440
it usually comes with a consequence. So,

1842
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:20,159
so tracking that um which is what they

1843
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:23,120
do already. We'll see with this deeper

1844
01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:25,600
communication, the extra announcements

1845
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:27,600
and rule enforcement at the school sites

1846
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:30,800
and the conversations about that and how

1847
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:32,400
it it changes things. Um and if not, you

1848
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:35,120
know, maybe we need to look at other

1849
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:39,239
other means as well. So, it'll be nice

1850
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:39,239
to to see how the year progresses.

1851
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,520
All right, wrapping up that discussion,

1852
01:11:42,239 --> 01:11:45,920
we'll move on to our next discussion

1853
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:47,679
item, which is 8.4. This is also a first

1854
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,120
reading discussion of board policy and

1855
01:11:47,679 --> 01:11:51,280
administrative regulation. This time

1856
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:54,320
it's 5123, which is on promotion,

1857
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:56,000
acceleration, and retention.

1858
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,760
Yeah, I think we found it a little odd

1859
01:11:56,000 --> 01:12:00,000
that these three items are lumped

1860
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:01,920
together. Sort of an interesting um way

1861
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:04,800
to do it. Part of this board policy

1862
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:06,080
update is to reorganize some of the

1863
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,640
information and make it a little bit

1864
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:11,440
more clear. uh and certainly the ARs

1865
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:14,960
that go with it. Uh but the other

1866
01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:16,640
portion of this is to really take a look

1867
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:21,199
at

1868
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:23,280
um how we are how we view essentially

1869
01:12:21,199 --> 01:12:27,679
retention and the peel process and how

1870
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:31,120
the steps go in the ARS. um but also to

1871
01:12:27,679 --> 01:12:35,120
ensure that the acceleration portion is

1872
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:37,760
is gives us enough wiggle room and um

1873
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:40,719
the ability to work within it. Right now

1874
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:43,520
we offer acceleration for math in middle

1875
01:12:40,719 --> 01:12:45,520
school starting in sixth grade. But

1876
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:48,800
there are conversations about looking at

1877
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:50,640
other uh content areas and you know the

1878
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:52,400
finances that go with that, the training

1879
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:54,480
that go with that, the the student

1880
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:56,960
groupings and so forth or some out of

1881
01:12:54,480 --> 01:12:58,400
the box ideas, right? Independent study,

1882
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,000
partnering with you know potential

1883
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,520
colleges or other institutions or

1884
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,840
organizations.

1885
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:06,159
And so I'm looking at this like a part

1886
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,600
one part two situation. In the fall,

1887
01:13:06,159 --> 01:13:10,320
there is going to be a group that gets

1888
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:12,880
together to look at some of these more

1889
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:14,960
unique ways of offering opportunities

1890
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:18,800
for students, but we're not quite there

1891
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:20,640
yet. So, what we did do in the ARS is

1892
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,320
put clarity in there about the

1893
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:24,800
enrichment portion. So, that was sort of

1894
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:26,239
our one step forward knowing that in the

1895
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,480
fall we're going to come back. So, this

1896
01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:31,520
policy will come back to you again next

1897
01:13:28,480 --> 01:13:33,520
school year um as we tease out and work

1898
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:36,400
through some of those things. That's the

1899
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:39,360
acceleration portion. Uh it also

1900
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:43,120
includes uh the retention portion. I'm

1901
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:46,480
going to rely on Anna Herrera more so um

1902
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:48,320
uh in this conversation too, but uh the

1903
01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:51,520
idea of bringing in some of our local

1904
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:53,840
assessments that support

1905
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:55,360
uh the the work that already happens

1906
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:58,480
when a student is considered for

1907
01:13:55,360 --> 01:14:00,640
retention uh from

1908
01:13:58,480 --> 01:14:02,880
in kindergarten, but then as the grades

1909
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:04,719
progress too. That's very rare. We don't

1910
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,480
encourage that for lots of reasons.

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01:14:04,719 --> 01:14:09,120
There's could have a whole discussion on

1912
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:11,280
that alone. Um Anna, do you want to add

1913
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:13,679
anything else?

1914
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:16,080
Um I think you know I think at the end

1915
01:14:13,679 --> 01:14:18,080
of the day we have had some people who

1916
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,679
we've gotten submissions about retention

1917
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:22,080
and I've turned them all down. Many of

1918
01:14:19,679 --> 01:14:24,960
them have become and I think some one of

1919
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:27,840
you brought it up in our questions about

1920
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:29,920
um English learners, right? So we often

1921
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:33,360
have time where our newcomers have been

1922
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:35,760
retained. Um so we have really talked

1923
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:38,000
about not doing that as they need time

1924
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:40,000
in the in the country. They need support

1925
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:42,000
systems. I think one of the things that

1926
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:44,800
we we've been working on to really

1927
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:46,640
solidify is our MTSS process. What are

1928
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,480
we doing to identify because you can't

1929
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,480
just retain just because the child

1930
01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:53,520
didn't made progress. Did they did you

1931
01:14:50,480 --> 01:14:55,280
put into play as a teacher interventions

1932
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,880
around the world? did he did did the

1933
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,840
child receive all the support? So, we're

1934
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:00,960
really trying to make sure we're

1935
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:02,800
tracking that a lot better versus just

1936
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:05,840
saying I'm going to retain this child

1937
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:08,159
and no evidence is given. So, when they

1938
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:10,960
send me the paper, I'm always asking

1939
01:15:08,159 --> 01:15:12,400
where's their data? Where's the samples?

1940
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,239
Because I'm not going to base it just on

1941
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:17,120
a paper. I want to make sure I see the

1942
01:15:14,239 --> 01:15:19,280
evidence as well. Um, so we haven't

1943
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:21,360
retained Dr. Baker and I have we don't

1944
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,880
both neither I or him really believe in

1945
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,960
retention. We believe that we need to

1946
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,960
intervene and we need to provide the

1947
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:30,400
interventions at the school site as much

1948
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:32,640
as we can um so that the child can be

1949
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:36,320
successful. Um the thing that's not in

1950
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:38,960
here too is that TK and Kinder are a

1951
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:40,480
two-year program. So if a child is in TK

1952
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,719
and then goes to Kinder, they actually

1953
01:15:40,480 --> 01:15:46,239
can't be retained because it's a

1954
01:15:42,719 --> 01:15:47,679
two-year program of Kinder. So that is a

1955
01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:48,800
whole other thing. So, when I looked at

1956
01:15:47,679 --> 01:15:49,920
this, I'm like, we didn't put that in

1957
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,520
there. But that was something that that

1958
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:54,000
the county shared with us that it's a

1959
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:56,560
two-year, it's a KK and kinder. It's a

1960
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:58,159
two-year kinder program. So, you really

1961
01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:00,080
cannot retain a student if they've

1962
01:15:58,159 --> 01:16:03,840
already been in TK and K. They've

1963
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:06,000
already repeated Kinder twice. Um, so

1964
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:08,080
just let you guys know that, you know,

1965
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,920
and if there's any time to any time to

1966
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,440
it would be in the kinder area, but as

1967
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:14,400
the older grades, it really does get

1968
01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:16,239
harder to retain students. Um, for many

1969
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:19,840
reasons, emotionally, social

1970
01:16:16,239 --> 01:16:21,199
emotionally, maturity wise, um, and we

1971
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,880
definitely don't retain if they have an

1972
01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:25,840
IEP.

1973
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:30,239
How many students did we retain beyond

1974
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:32,480
kinder and in the last decade? Um well

1975
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:35,360
since I've been superintendent we have

1976
01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:38,880
not done one. Uh the research is out

1977
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:42,000
there. The data is out there. You do not

1978
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:44,480
if you're going to retain it's got to be

1979
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:46,640
but beyond that the research there's

1980
01:16:44,480 --> 01:16:49,760
policy work for our policy around

1981
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:52,480
retentions beyond kinder are kind of

1982
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:54,560
academic because we don't do it. We're

1983
01:16:52,480 --> 01:16:57,120
not going to be doing it. We we have had

1984
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,400
and when Liz before Anna came in, I

1985
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,560
think it was Liz's last year, we had a

1986
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:02,239
parent that was so disgusted with us.

1987
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:04,560
She left the district. I go, it's up to

1988
01:17:02,239 --> 01:17:06,239
you. That's your call, but we're not

1989
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:09,199
retaining the child and the child was in

1990
01:17:06,239 --> 01:17:10,880
fourth grade. Yeah. So, so this gets

1991
01:17:09,199 --> 01:17:13,760
actually to something that was a little

1992
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:15,760
bit part of the earlier prior policy

1993
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:17,280
discussion which is like uh how do we

1994
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:21,120
what is the right venue for us to

1995
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:23,120
express because this is like um the

1996
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:25,840
language that's in here is like what do

1997
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:28,800
we do? How do we handle the case of when

1998
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:31,040
we retain a student um that's beyond

1999
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:33,520
kindergarten, right? And and I think the

2000
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:35,600
answer is like we we we don't because

2001
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:37,520
it's a really bad idea because the data

2002
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:39,600
is crystal clear, right? And it's like

2003
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:42,159
why doesn't the policy say that? Because

2004
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,920
when I think about what what policy is

2005
01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:45,679
is policy describes what does the

2006
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,360
organization believe to be true. What

2007
01:17:45,679 --> 01:17:48,880
does the organization think is a good

2008
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:51,280
idea at a high level. It's not it's not

2009
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:53,840
the mechanical details, right? That's

2010
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:55,280
that that's why we've got the uh the

2011
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,880
administrative rags that are the

2012
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,640
mechanical details. The policy is the

2013
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:01,280
philosophy of like what do we think is

2014
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:02,880
true? And it's crystal clear what we

2015
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,960
think is true is retention beyond

2016
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:07,280
kindergarten is a terrible idea. So,

2017
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,960
shouldn't the policy say this district

2018
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,800
believes that retention beyond

2019
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:13,199
kindergarten is a terrible idea and the

2020
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:16,320
ARS can spell out the how we actually

2021
01:18:13,199 --> 01:18:17,520
live that? Yeah, we can. I I think

2022
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,840
that's right.

2023
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:21,600
questions because the ED code actually

2024
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:24,400
it's a so we John and I kept reading the

2025
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:26,800
ed code the other day and and really in

2026
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:29,760
the ed code you can retain and it's like

2027
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,960
your due diligence and oftentimes we get

2028
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,480
and this is one of the things that

2029
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,800
private schools and our charter schools

2030
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:36,560
do they retain the kids and then we get

2031
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:38,960
them and they have had no intervention

2032
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:43,120
so there is a lot of practices out there

2033
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:44,800
of still retaining kids a lot and um

2034
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:46,800
it's really sad to see that when they

2035
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:48,239
retain them they not retain retaining

2036
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:51,520
them in kinder, they're retaining them

2037
01:18:48,239 --> 01:18:53,520
in second and third grade. So, you know,

2038
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:55,360
it's do do we do we try to do our due

2039
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,640
diligence here, but yeah, so this is why

2040
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:59,840
we're here because we really want to

2041
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:01,840
make sure what is our policy. We can

2042
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,840
review it tomorrow and I think the last

2043
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:06,080
paragraph kind of already leads to that

2044
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:07,600
like what our what our usual steps are,

2045
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,120
but we can kind of firm up the wording

2046
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,800
that we're going to do this first before

2047
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:13,360
any retention, right? all the

2048
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:15,040
intervention in the

2049
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,880
right which is actually ed code. The

2050
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:20,320
very last paragraph on the on the board

2051
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:22,080
policy basically says that the district

2052
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:23,920
will need to offer an appropriate

2053
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,600
program of remedial instruction to

2054
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:28,000
assist the student in meeting grade

2055
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:31,120
level expectations.

2056
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:34,239
So however there is an appeal process

2057
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:36,640
you know for the for the parent. Um but

2058
01:19:34,239 --> 01:19:38,159
we are meeting tomorrow so we can look

2059
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:41,199
at

2060
01:19:38,159 --> 01:19:44,400
a sentence or two that might yeah for

2061
01:19:41,199 --> 01:19:46,080
you know for discussion purposes I'm

2062
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,920
perfectly fine with adding a sentence. I

2063
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,440
I I mean I think this is in my mind this

2064
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,960
is different from the last one because

2065
01:19:49,440 --> 01:19:53,600
this is clearly within our purview of

2066
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:55,440
like yeah we have if we have a sense of

2067
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:57,520
what is right and it sounds like I will

2068
01:19:55,440 --> 01:19:59,679
acknowledge that I am not as deeply into

2069
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:02,159
the academic research as so clearly

2070
01:19:59,679 --> 01:20:04,400
others are but if it is the case that

2071
01:20:02,159 --> 01:20:07,920
like we know that that that retention is

2072
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:08,960
not often very helpful then I think

2073
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:11,280
there's a perfect place to add a

2074
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:13,120
sentence that's basically like we

2075
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,880
strongly discourage retention except in

2076
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:16,400
the most exceptional circumstances and

2077
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:18,080
then if that happens here is kind of the

2078
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:20,880
process. I don't know if others have

2079
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:22,800
ideas.

2080
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:24,400
Love it. I think it's great to have that

2081
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,840
as an introduction into the retention

2082
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:28,480
section and put it in there because it

2083
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:30,239
it definitely felt icky um reading it.

2084
01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:33,040
So, it'd be nice to Yeah, I think it'd

2085
01:20:30,239 --> 01:20:35,440
be a good start. Sweet. I mean, I I and

2086
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:38,159
I I kind of feel uh like on the other

2087
01:20:35,440 --> 01:20:40,320
side of the fence with acceleration,

2088
01:20:38,159 --> 01:20:42,400
um it's something that not a lot of

2089
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:44,239
parents advocate for in terms of like

2090
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:47,360
whole grade acceleration is not a very

2091
01:20:44,239 --> 01:20:49,679
popular thing for parents to do. And for

2092
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:52,560
uh home room teachers generally, they

2093
01:20:49,679 --> 01:20:54,880
also uh don't tend to be big advocates

2094
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:57,440
for it. But the data is actually really

2095
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:59,440
clear that like net it ends up

2096
01:20:57,440 --> 01:21:01,840
overwhelmingly a good thing. those kids

2097
01:20:59,440 --> 01:21:05,040
end up that are accelerated ends up end

2098
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:07,600
up going to uh have much higher academic

2099
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:09,360
attainment and career success than than

2100
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:11,440
those that don't. So acceleration is

2101
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:13,360
unpopular but highly efficacious and

2102
01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:15,440
highly supported by data in showing

2103
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:17,280
really good outcomes. And this is where

2104
01:21:15,440 --> 01:21:20,880
I think it would be really helpful if

2105
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:24,000
the district and it could offer a nudge

2106
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:26,800
to say like if it seems like you have

2107
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:29,040
kids who are academically outperforming

2108
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:31,920
and may be ready to go and skip a grade,

2109
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:34,000
we should lean into exploring that with

2110
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:36,719
kids even taking parents along for the

2111
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:39,679
journey uh for why it may be a good idea

2112
01:21:36,719 --> 01:21:41,360
for them because acceleration is a whole

2113
01:21:39,679 --> 01:21:42,880
grade acceleration's also been somewhat

2114
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,719
rare in this district is my

2115
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:47,360
understanding. this last school year,

2116
01:21:44,719 --> 01:21:51,199
how how many um how many kids did we

2117
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:54,080
grade skip? We didn't. We didn't. None.

2118
01:21:51,199 --> 01:21:55,760
We didn't. But we have looked at

2119
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:58,800
children coming into the district,

2120
01:21:55,760 --> 01:22:03,040
especially at kindergarten, who have had

2121
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:05,280
um additional experiences who are way

2122
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:08,080
are beyond the kindergarten grade level.

2123
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:10,000
And after we've done some testing and

2124
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:12,000
also we had our psychologists work with

2125
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:14,639
them, it was determined that yes, they

2126
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:17,679
should be in first grade and not in

2127
01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:19,280
kindergarten. So we have done that and

2128
01:22:17,679 --> 01:22:22,639
matter of fact an and I were talking

2129
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:25,040
about a student who's coming into TK and

2130
01:22:22,639 --> 01:22:26,400
the parent feels very strongly that this

2131
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:29,199
child should be in kinder. And so what

2132
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:31,920
we said, okay, your child turns four,

2133
01:22:29,199 --> 01:22:34,639
isn't it in December? in dis on

2134
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:36,000
December. Let's start there and then

2135
01:22:34,639 --> 01:22:37,760
we're gonna start then we're going to

2136
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,840
test. It gives us time to see maturity

2137
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:42,239
in action and then we're going to test

2138
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:46,400
and if it's true then we'll have to

2139
01:22:42,239 --> 01:22:47,840
let's discuss. Sure. And I feel like

2140
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:50,159
with the number of students we have,

2141
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:54,960
more than 6,000 students, the the odds

2142
01:22:50,159 --> 01:22:58,080
that 0% of the kids who um were in a

2143
01:22:54,960 --> 01:23:02,159
prior year with us were ready to jump a

2144
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:04,960
year um seems much lower than I would

2145
01:23:02,159 --> 01:23:08,239
expect. You know, I I I would expect

2146
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:11,040
somewhere between like two to something

2147
01:23:08,239 --> 01:23:13,280
in the 2% range, maybe we could say. um

2148
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:15,840
you know and and based on some of the

2149
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:18,880
data I've seen around acceleration um

2150
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:20,880
and with the quantity we have it's

2151
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:22,719
statistically significant enough that I

2152
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:24,560
would expect like a couple dozen sk kids

2153
01:23:22,719 --> 01:23:26,560
in the district to be to be grade

2154
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:29,040
skipping every year and the fact that

2155
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:30,159
it's zero is like we're I think as a

2156
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,360
matter of policy because this is a

2157
01:23:30,159 --> 01:23:34,159
policy discussion that we're having

2158
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:36,960
right now underpromoting acceleration as

2159
01:23:34,159 --> 01:23:40,159
a very helpful and efficacious proven

2160
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:42,080
technique for long-term academic

2161
01:23:40,159 --> 01:23:44,239
performance and investing in kids. So,

2162
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:46,400
it's just it I'm not seeing a lot of

2163
01:23:44,239 --> 01:23:48,560
nods around the around the table. Um,

2164
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:51,280
it's an area where I I would like us as

2165
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:53,840
a board to explore more and to learn

2166
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:56,719
more because I acknowledge it's it's not

2167
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:58,080
popular, but it's highly effective and

2168
01:23:56,719 --> 01:24:00,880
it's something that I would like to see

2169
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:04,320
us collectively lean more into. I would

2170
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:06,159
like to see more research on myself um

2171
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:08,560
on it and I also want to see the

2172
01:24:06,159 --> 01:24:12,320
research on those students who have gone

2173
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:14,320
in that direction and have suffered

2174
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:17,120
and then we have this discussion because

2175
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:20,639
there is there are studies that children

2176
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:23,199
have skipped one two grade levels and by

2177
01:24:20,639 --> 01:24:25,280
a certain time they're at middle school

2178
01:24:23,199 --> 01:24:27,199
or high school it goes the other

2179
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:29,840
direction. So, I would really like to

2180
01:24:27,199 --> 01:24:32,639
balance the both before we determine

2181
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:34,480
that we're going to do this. Let's lean

2182
01:24:32,639 --> 01:24:37,199
into doing the research and seeing

2183
01:24:34,480 --> 01:24:39,120
what's out there because I I I think I

2184
01:24:37,199 --> 01:24:41,360
think our community deserves that. Yeah.

2185
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:44,320
Yeah. I'm similar. I think I'm in the

2186
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:45,760
same boat as Dr. Baker. are open for

2187
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:48,400
sure open to the research like we should

2188
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:51,360
just know what the answer is for just I

2189
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:52,960
think intuitively it feels a little bit

2190
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,480
different because there's a more I feel

2191
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:58,080
like there's a more obvious

2192
01:24:54,480 --> 01:25:00,560
perniciousness of the retention um than

2193
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,840
there is necessarily promotion or you

2194
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:04,239
know beneficial qualities to

2195
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,440
acceleration just because it's uh I

2196
01:25:04,239 --> 01:25:08,639
think there are also emotional

2197
01:25:05,440 --> 01:25:10,639
components to it that change over the

2198
01:25:08,639 --> 01:25:12,080
elementary middle high school lifetime

2199
01:25:10,639 --> 01:25:13,199
that I do wonder if there are different

2200
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:16,719
dynamics And I I just don't know what

2201
01:25:13,199 --> 01:25:19,280
the answer is. I feel like retention

2202
01:25:16,719 --> 01:25:20,880
it's just all stigma. Um which seems

2203
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:23,760
like an easier answer, but I'd be

2204
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:25,199
curious about the research as well.

2205
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:27,600
Yeah, I agree. I don't know anything

2206
01:25:25,199 --> 01:25:29,840
about grade skipping or or putting along

2207
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:32,000
those lines. Totally unfamiliar with it.

2208
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:34,080
Um haven't haven't seen anything talking

2209
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:36,400
about pros or cons for it. Um and I

2210
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:38,719
don't know. So, so what's the right way

2211
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:40,400
to ask for a study session for us to go

2212
01:25:38,719 --> 01:25:42,400
and pull in some research, pull in some

2213
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,760
data and see what we want our policy

2214
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,199
because this is a policy discussion.

2215
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,800
We're having a policy discussion about

2216
01:25:45,199 --> 01:25:49,440
acceleration. It would be nice to have

2217
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:52,400
our policy be grounded in data. Um, and

2218
01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:54,719
so I I this is my formal request that we

2219
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:56,560
we bring together some data to go and

2220
01:25:54,719 --> 01:26:00,719
review to figure out what our board

2221
01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:03,199
policy on acceleration should be.

2222
01:26:00,719 --> 01:26:04,800
Yeah. I think that um what might be nice

2223
01:26:03,199 --> 01:26:07,040
is to get a little bit of individual

2224
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:09,280
research to pull in there um there

2225
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:12,000
because there one thing I will say is

2226
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:13,920
that you know if we're not deliberate

2227
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:15,440
about what we want to do study sessions

2228
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:17,760
on and this may be the important one

2229
01:26:15,440 --> 01:26:19,760
that we want to do but if you know at

2230
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:21,280
every every board meeting we're like hey

2231
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,560
there's a study session here or a study

2232
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:24,800
session there we're going to end up

2233
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:26,800
missing the ones that are prioritized so

2234
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:28,000
I would kind of like to have a way for

2235
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,440
and I don't know exactly how this is

2236
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:31,520
going to work maybe it can be our August

2237
01:26:29,440 --> 01:26:33,920
offsite where we can put it in and say

2238
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:35,840
what are the topics where we feel like

2239
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:39,040
we should be able to put in the the

2240
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:40,159
study session because otherwise um we're

2241
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,360
either going to have so many study

2242
01:26:40,159 --> 01:26:43,840
sessions that we're not studying

2243
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:45,760
anything or we're studying the wrong

2244
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:47,280
stuff it's not the ones that we like it.

2245
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:49,280
I do I do think it's interesting and I

2246
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:51,440
encourage us all to go and get you know

2247
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:53,199
educated on our own and also bring it up

2248
01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:54,960
with the with the superintendent and if

2249
01:26:53,199 --> 01:26:57,440
we do start finding things that look

2250
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:59,120
really interesting let's bring it into

2251
01:26:57,440 --> 01:27:02,000
you know kind of the prioritization of

2252
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:04,880
what do we think as the board um we want

2253
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:06,639
to be able to to study you know where we

2254
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:09,679
want to spend our time and and study for

2255
01:27:06,639 --> 01:27:12,080
it. Um, I I do, you know, I think that

2256
01:27:09,679 --> 01:27:14,639
this is something that could impact a

2257
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:16,480
few students. Um, and I don't know if

2258
01:27:14,639 --> 01:27:18,000
that's, you know, if that's the one

2259
01:27:16,480 --> 01:27:20,159
that's going to make it to the very top

2260
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,760
of our list of, hey, these are the

2261
01:27:20,159 --> 01:27:23,920
things that are going to affect, you

2262
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,520
know, 1500 students or 2,000 students

2263
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:28,080
and be able to pull it together. The

2264
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:29,679
grade skipping one particularly,

2265
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:32,239
sure, it's just if it's something that

2266
01:27:29,679 --> 01:27:34,000
we did decide to do, it's actually an

2267
01:27:32,239 --> 01:27:35,679
incredibly cost-effective intervention

2268
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:38,719
because we we get the student for a year

2269
01:27:35,679 --> 01:27:41,040
less, right? And so yeah, just bang bang

2270
01:27:38,719 --> 01:27:42,719
for the buck is sorry. The the return on

2271
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:44,880
investment that we get for that is is is

2272
01:27:42,719 --> 01:27:46,239
pretty. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not I'm not I'm

2273
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,520
not against it. I'm just saying that

2274
01:27:46,239 --> 01:27:48,880
like I think that we should kind of

2275
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,000
educate ourselves a little bit and then

2276
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,600
see if we can bring it into a

2277
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:54,080
prioritization framework which I admit

2278
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,040
we don't have for study sessions and we

2279
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,880
should probably start putting one

2280
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:58,400
together and finding a way to bring this

2281
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:00,239
in. We brought this up before with some

2282
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:02,080
of the other items that we wanted to. So

2283
01:28:00,239 --> 01:28:03,600
do we have meta question? Do we have a

2284
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,639
parking lot where we are tracking here

2285
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,400
are the things that we need to have

2286
01:28:04,639 --> 01:28:09,719
study sessions on? I think you have the

2287
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:09,719
parking lot.

2288
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:16,800
All right. We um

2289
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,920
um I I have some of them written down. I

2290
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,520
don't have them in front of me now that

2291
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:21,360
have come up before in the past um that

2292
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,960
we've said, "Hey, let's bring it to and

2293
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,719
figure out where we want to put it." Um

2294
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,159
but I I will fully admit that I haven't

2295
01:28:24,719 --> 01:28:27,520
been rigorous about like, "Hey, let's

2296
01:28:26,159 --> 01:28:30,080
collect them all and then we can come in

2297
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:32,000
and do like a detailed rubric evaluation

2298
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:33,440
and things like that, which which, you

2299
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:35,360
know, historically we haven't done as a

2300
01:28:33,440 --> 01:28:36,480
board. Um, and so it might be, you know,

2301
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:37,600
it's something that we want to do and

2302
01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:40,480
bring it in. But I think it should be

2303
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:42,239
boardled. Um, not not with staff input

2304
01:28:40,480 --> 01:28:44,560
of course, but I don't I wouldn't look

2305
01:28:42,239 --> 01:28:46,000
to the staff to say like, hey, obviously

2306
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:47,679
I think you should come to us and say,

2307
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:50,320
you guys need to study this. This is an

2308
01:28:47,679 --> 01:28:52,239
important thing. Um, but I think that

2309
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,760
these additional ones um, we should

2310
01:28:52,239 --> 01:28:55,440
figure out what those are, what we want

2311
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:57,360
to prioritize. And then the discussion

2312
01:28:55,440 --> 01:29:00,000
should be how many items do we want to

2313
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:03,480
take on in, you know, in a board year? U

2314
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,480
pull that stuff together.

2315
01:29:04,159 --> 01:29:09,600
May I add one more item? So grade

2316
01:29:07,440 --> 01:29:11,280
skipping isn't a new concept for our

2317
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:13,360
district. I mean even when I was former

2318
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:15,840
Northstar principal, we had about two

2319
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:19,120
kids every year that would pass a

2320
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:22,080
endofear post assessment to measure

2321
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:25,760
endofear knowledge at the beginning of

2322
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:27,520
the year and would score at least a 90%.

2323
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:29,280
That is, you know, check my goodness

2324
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:31,600
that person really knows it. Let's move

2325
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:34,080
on. And there there was a relationship

2326
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:36,320
with Sequoia certainly for math. We had

2327
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:39,440
a science program online back in the

2328
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:41,520
day, that type of thing. Um, similar to

2329
01:29:39,440 --> 01:29:43,840
your other question about retention, how

2330
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:46,480
many parents are actually requesting

2331
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:49,040
grade skipping?

2332
01:29:46,480 --> 01:29:51,040
Do you know, Anna? We have one. We have

2333
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:54,480
one right now for next year. Okay. Now,

2334
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:57,280
we have Do we have

2335
01:29:54,480 --> 01:29:59,520
Yeah. Yeah. Um, course skipping might be

2336
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:01,199
interesting. There is a domino effect in

2337
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:03,520
middle school about this though because

2338
01:30:01,199 --> 01:30:05,600
the way the courses are laid out you

2339
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:07,679
would literally need to know an entire

2340
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:10,080
year of something before you and a whole

2341
01:30:07,679 --> 01:30:12,159
different subject right so you you know

2342
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:14,560
more earth science biology science

2343
01:30:12,159 --> 01:30:16,800
physical science so somewhat similar to

2344
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,920
that and they weave an eb and flow so

2345
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:21,520
middle schools become a little bit

2346
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:24,320
different with common core um but you

2347
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:26,639
know it's I mean I am a big fan of

2348
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:27,679
enrichment and opportunities for kids to

2349
01:30:26,639 --> 01:30:28,880
stretch themselves and challenge

2350
01:30:27,679 --> 01:30:32,320
challenge themselves just in my

2351
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:34,080
background in work. Uh however, it is a

2352
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:36,159
systematic process. It involves

2353
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:39,360
staffing, it involves funding, it

2354
01:30:36,159 --> 01:30:41,040
involves bandwidth. Um there are more

2355
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:42,800
simple opportunities which is some of

2356
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:45,280
the things we were looking at exploring

2357
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:49,199
next year for some unique and usual

2358
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:50,960
situations or in addition to you know

2359
01:30:49,199 --> 01:30:53,360
that also is another option for kids

2360
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:54,800
too. So I think there's a lot to

2361
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:56,400
explore. I was going to say I'm also

2362
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:59,120
very interested in the research that you

2363
01:30:56,400 --> 01:31:02,159
have because um there is a lot of things

2364
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:04,239
out there that lead to an interest in

2365
01:31:02,159 --> 01:31:06,480
really challenging students in school

2366
01:31:04,239 --> 01:31:07,920
and what that means for every student

2367
01:31:06,480 --> 01:31:10,719
quite frankly, but certainly kids that

2368
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:12,320
are seeking and wanting more. Um so

2369
01:31:10,719 --> 01:31:14,320
anyway, I appreciate the conversation

2370
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:16,159
tonight. Our board policy committee is

2371
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:18,000
going to look at some of the sentences

2372
01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:21,440
too to to look for some strength in

2373
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:23,520
there. Um so thank you for that. Just

2374
01:31:21,440 --> 01:31:26,080
two more things and one of you brought

2375
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:28,400
to my mind because y uh I did not this

2376
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:30,159
did not it was not immediately intuitive

2377
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,360
to me until we had lots of conversation

2378
01:31:30,159 --> 01:31:33,040
about this but that there is a

2379
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:36,320
distinction between I guess terminology

2380
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:39,040
of u acceler course acceleration great

2381
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:41,679
acceleration and then enrichment um and

2382
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:44,400
so whereas I am currently ambivalent on

2383
01:31:41,679 --> 01:31:46,560
the acceleration piece I am happy also

2384
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:48,320
to make a policy statement that says

2385
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:51,360
like we very much encourage enrichment

2386
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:53,280
as appropriate um because my

2387
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:55,600
understanding is like that is a lot of

2388
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:58,159
uh what Northstar for example will do uh

2389
01:31:55,600 --> 01:32:01,040
to enrich the existing curriculum to

2390
01:31:58,159 --> 01:32:02,800
make it more um a fuller deeper dive

2391
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:04,639
into things and that seems appropriate

2392
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:06,719
when that's the capacity is available

2393
01:32:04,639 --> 01:32:09,040
which I think is a less less of a jump

2394
01:32:06,719 --> 01:32:10,960
than um acceleration we believe every

2395
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:13,760
student should be challenged to the full

2396
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:15,440
limits of their capabilities I I I

2397
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:17,440
certainly believe that I don't right

2398
01:32:15,440 --> 01:32:19,199
maybe that could be a statement of

2399
01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:23,199
policy right we can find different ways

2400
01:32:19,199 --> 01:32:24,239
to enact that policy. Yeah. Um the other

2401
01:32:23,199 --> 01:32:26,000
thing was I just wanted to make sure

2402
01:32:24,239 --> 01:32:28,560
because this is obviously a policy disc

2403
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:30,639
discussion among the full board but want

2404
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:34,800
to invite Trusty Marquez or Trusty King

2405
01:32:30,639 --> 01:32:36,719
to opine on any of this.

2406
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:39,600
Yeah, I just wanted to point out I mean

2407
01:32:36,719 --> 01:32:41,360
I I I think I would also want to add

2408
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:43,360
that enrichment piece and we did it's

2409
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:45,040
not obvious in this red line but we did

2410
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:46,880
add the word strength because we wanted

2411
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:48,880
to that wasn't even in the policy

2412
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:50,719
before. So we are going to try to focus

2413
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:53,719
on that piece when we um update the

2414
01:32:50,719 --> 01:32:53,719
wording.

2415
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:58,400
Cecilia, did you have anything to add?

2416
01:32:56,080 --> 01:33:00,080
No, the only thing is um with

2417
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,840
acceleration,

2418
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:03,760
obviously I don't know much other than

2419
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:08,679
you guys said that there might be a

2420
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:08,679
parent, but do we want to

2421
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:13,760
take in what the parent says versus what

2422
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:16,480
the teacher sees? because as a parent

2423
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:18,480
you could think okay you know my my

2424
01:33:16,480 --> 01:33:20,080
child is

2425
01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:23,440
ex

2426
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:25,120
you know smart um but what the teacher

2427
01:33:23,440 --> 01:33:27,440
actually sees on a daily basis it could

2428
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:29,280
be that they're lacking something. So at

2429
01:33:27,440 --> 01:33:31,679
the end of the day when it comes down to

2430
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:35,199
if there's going to be any acceleration

2431
01:33:31,679 --> 01:33:37,520
then how do we how would we weigh that

2432
01:33:35,199 --> 01:33:40,400
in? Um it would be more of a teacher

2433
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:43,520
recommendation which it sounds like we

2434
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:45,040
we don't do. Um or again the

2435
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:47,840
intervention

2436
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:50,960
my question with intervention is are we

2437
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:54,400
talking about intervention like maybe

2438
01:33:50,960 --> 01:34:00,320
um the pull out method or the what do

2439
01:33:54,400 --> 01:34:02,320
you call it? Push in. Um so what do we

2440
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:05,280
what what are we doing um as far as

2441
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:07,760
intervention for retention or for all

2442
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:11,679
dis so there's different types most most

2443
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:14,400
of them are done by pull pull out yeah

2444
01:34:11,679 --> 01:34:18,480
but I also know that for example at Roy

2445
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:21,280
Cloud a couple of years ago um Miss

2446
01:34:18,480 --> 01:34:23,600
Bowen had a student who needed it who

2447
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:26,159
was TK and was definitely in grade level

2448
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:27,520
needed advancement so the teacher who

2449
01:34:26,159 --> 01:34:30,000
was an interventionist actually was

2450
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:31,840
supporting that child. So that was a

2451
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:34,320
pull out program to help that child

2452
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:36,320
continue learning but still because the

2453
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:38,480
child socially was having a lot of

2454
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:40,320
issues but academically was on target.

2455
01:34:38,480 --> 01:34:42,480
So there there was the social aspect and

2456
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:44,800
then there was academic so she was able

2457
01:34:42,480 --> 01:34:46,960
to do that with that child. So she had

2458
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:49,199
someone available to do that but we

2459
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:51,040
often don't see that in in with like a

2460
01:34:49,199 --> 01:34:53,520
student who's ready to accelerate you

2461
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:56,239
know go ahead or move forward. we look

2462
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:58,960
at I mean we don't have it in place we

2463
01:34:56,239 --> 01:35:01,040
do have test scores we do all but have

2464
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:04,320
um the data just like what we would we

2465
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:06,639
would need to do to create something

2466
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:09,520
um to help support that child or those

2467
01:35:06,639 --> 01:35:11,840
children yeah I don't we don't have the

2468
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:13,199
system in place right now but if it's

2469
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,880
something that the board wants us to

2470
01:35:13,199 --> 01:35:16,239
give direction I think it's it we do

2471
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:18,639
have to actually work with the teachers

2472
01:35:16,239 --> 01:35:20,719
too because again it's a philosophy you

2473
01:35:18,639 --> 01:35:24,320
know it's a change of philosophy of what

2474
01:35:20,719 --> 01:35:24,320
we've been doing and practices

2475
01:35:24,480 --> 01:35:30,719
I had one more item. This this policy

2476
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:32,800
says promotion, acceleration, retention,

2477
01:35:30,719 --> 01:35:36,080
but

2478
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:38,080
I I I really just want to make sure that

2479
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:39,600
we are truly talking about grade

2480
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:41,679
skipping or course skipping and the

2481
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:43,440
concept of acceleration because there

2482
01:35:41,679 --> 01:35:46,320
are very different ways to meet the

2483
01:35:43,440 --> 01:35:49,440
needs of high achieving students. deep

2484
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:51,600
enrichment is one of them where you

2485
01:35:49,440 --> 01:35:53,920
still work within the grade level

2486
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:56,000
standards for the student but you go

2487
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:59,840
much deeper. You allow that child to

2488
01:35:56,000 --> 01:36:02,239
really explore, research, show interest,

2489
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:05,280
create projects and information because

2490
01:36:02,239 --> 01:36:07,679
their surface knowledge is enough to

2491
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:10,239
sort of get by so that you can allow

2492
01:36:07,679 --> 01:36:11,840
them time to go deeper in various

2493
01:36:10,239 --> 01:36:13,360
subjects. And then there might be other

2494
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:16,639
pieces where they actually need direct

2495
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:18,880
instruction like you know like when you

2496
01:36:16,639 --> 01:36:21,679
when you grade skip you are saying that

2497
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:23,520
the child is accelerated in all four

2498
01:36:21,679 --> 01:36:26,480
core subjects

2499
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:28,639
at the same time which is unique and

2500
01:36:26,480 --> 01:36:30,080
rare to be honest. If you have a student

2501
01:36:28,639 --> 01:36:32,239
pass a post assessment, it's not

2502
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:34,560
impossible a post assessment at the end

2503
01:36:32,239 --> 01:36:37,360
of the year. Perhaps in math they might

2504
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:39,360
excel. Perhaps in English language arts

2505
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:41,679
including writing they may excel. But

2506
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:44,320
it's very unique to see all four

2507
01:36:41,679 --> 01:36:47,440
subjects in one child. So that's why the

2508
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:49,600
idea of enrichment or course skipping is

2509
01:36:47,440 --> 01:36:51,840
a little bit more attractive because you

2510
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:53,520
can still keep kids with their peers.

2511
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:56,560
There's ramifications in middle school

2512
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:59,920
and high school for those decisions. um

2513
01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:02,480
socially, developmentally, on a maturity

2514
01:36:59,920 --> 01:37:05,760
level. So, the idea of enrichment is

2515
01:37:02,480 --> 01:37:08,400
still really challenging the kids in in

2516
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:10,400
a in a good, healthy, productive way

2517
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:13,199
with keeping some of those developmental

2518
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:14,560
pieces intact as they progress over the

2519
01:37:13,199 --> 01:37:16,159
years. Because it's not so much you see

2520
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:18,159
it in kindergarten, everyone's like,

2521
01:37:16,159 --> 01:37:19,440
"Oh, they can read." But it's really

2522
01:37:18,159 --> 01:37:20,800
when you when they start getting into

2523
01:37:19,440 --> 01:37:22,960
middle and high school where you start

2524
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:26,560
seeing the ramifications, good, bad, and

2525
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:28,960
ugly, of that decision. So enri dive of

2526
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:31,760
enrichment is sort of a a middle ground

2527
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:33,920
to manage all of the elements that

2528
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:36,960
unfold as a result of those earlier

2529
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:39,679
decisions usually that parents make um

2530
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:41,040
for that. So something to think about um

2531
01:37:39,679 --> 01:37:42,560
as we progress because that was one of

2532
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:44,080
my first questions to the committee. Are

2533
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,760
we talking about enrichment? Are we

2534
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:48,000
talking about acceleration? Those are

2535
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:49,760
two very different pieces but enrichment

2536
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:51,280
is not listed in this title at all.

2537
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,880
Yeah. And I I mean I do want to talk

2538
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:54,560
about that course acceleration a little

2539
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:56,800
bit, but before we do that, um I think

2540
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:58,800
the beginning conversation was was about

2541
01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:01,600
grade changes. Um I think you were

2542
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:02,800
talking about skipping a grade or I

2543
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:05,840
think of course we started with

2544
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:06,960
retaining um retention a grade, but I

2545
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:09,840
think that's what we were talking about.

2546
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:11,440
I don't think aside from what uh Trusty

2547
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:13,199
Lee brought up around like hey

2548
01:38:11,440 --> 01:38:14,320
enrichment and supporting that um I

2549
01:38:13,199 --> 01:38:15,920
don't think we've gone into that

2550
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:17,440
conversation yet. is that at an even

2551
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,719
higher level I was seeing some nods

2552
01:38:17,440 --> 01:38:20,560
around every student should be

2553
01:38:18,719 --> 01:38:22,239
challenged to the full extent of their

2554
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:24,800
capabilities and then we can talk about

2555
01:38:22,239 --> 01:38:27,760
some of these different mechanisms like

2556
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:30,159
enrichment like course grade skipping

2557
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:32,960
like full grade skipping um as different

2558
01:38:30,159 --> 01:38:35,199
mechanisms of action to enact that.

2559
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:38,400
Yeah. Yeah. And you know, I think

2560
01:38:35,199 --> 01:38:41,119
accelerated courses um like the math

2561
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:43,760
pathway in middle school or or other

2562
01:38:41,119 --> 01:38:45,119
options there are are you know they're

2563
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:46,639
interesting and they provide unique

2564
01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:48,800
opportunities. The thing that always

2565
01:38:46,639 --> 01:38:50,639
worries me about them is the rig if they

2566
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:53,360
become rigid tracking with hard gates in

2567
01:38:50,639 --> 01:38:56,480
it. Um and this policy does talk about

2568
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:59,360
state test as the admission for those

2569
01:38:56,480 --> 01:39:01,360
classes. Um and it just it feels like a

2570
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:04,000
lot to put that on a high stakes test.

2571
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:06,320
um particularly for you know a student

2572
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:09,360
that might have you know a bad day on

2573
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:10,800
that one test day or maybe they're um

2574
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:12,639
you know they're emerging bilingual

2575
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:16,000
student and so there's language stuff

2576
01:39:12,639 --> 01:39:18,239
but it's not knowledge problems um how

2577
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:19,920
does should the policy address that I

2578
01:39:18,239 --> 01:39:23,360
mean how is that addressed how is that

2579
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:24,800
addressed today to ensure that um as

2580
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:26,480
let's take the math for example in

2581
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:29,280
middle school that as many students as

2582
01:39:26,480 --> 01:39:30,880
possible can get into the advanced math

2583
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:32,719
um so that they can benefit from uh

2584
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:36,880
because I do think that that's a case

2585
01:39:32,719 --> 01:39:39,520
where um the more students that get into

2586
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:41,840
it, the more students benefit from it.

2587
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:44,239
Um and so it does feel like something

2588
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:45,679
that should be expansively offered. I

2589
01:39:44,239 --> 01:39:47,440
know they've done this similar things at

2590
01:39:45,679 --> 01:39:49,600
the high school level around AP courses

2591
01:39:47,440 --> 01:39:51,119
where the more students that get into AP

2592
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:55,679
courses, the more students that get four

2593
01:39:51,119 --> 01:39:58,159
or fives on the AP. Um, and so

2594
01:39:55,679 --> 01:39:59,360
for sure, you know, but uh, and so I

2595
01:39:58,159 --> 01:40:01,040
think I just wanted to make sure there

2596
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:03,520
aren't hard gates, there's not things

2597
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:07,000
that are ex exclusionary. Um, and how we

2598
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:07,000
handle that today.

2599
01:40:08,239 --> 01:40:12,000
It's a little different between an

2600
01:40:10,239 --> 01:40:13,840
elementary district and a high school

2601
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:16,239
different because there's different

2602
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:18,960
units or credits and, you know, there's

2603
01:40:16,239 --> 01:40:21,199
there are different elements. um sort of

2604
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:23,920
our responsibility and really the high

2605
01:40:21,199 --> 01:40:26,159
schools but our responsibility is to

2606
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:29,520
ensure that all students are meeting the

2607
01:40:26,159 --> 01:40:32,159
grade level standards at a minimum right

2608
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:33,920
um but there are no units or credits and

2609
01:40:32,159 --> 01:40:36,080
this is why it's a different philosophy

2610
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:39,199
of promotion than you see at the high

2611
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:41,840
school graduation for example and and

2612
01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:43,600
failure in the high school versus um

2613
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:46,159
other acceptable means. So there's a

2614
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:49,360
little bit of different nuance for that.

2615
01:40:46,159 --> 01:40:52,800
But there's also and always has been and

2616
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:55,600
feel free Anna to pipe in here um a a

2617
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:58,480
concern in general of our multilingual

2618
01:40:55,600 --> 01:41:01,119
learners that need to access language

2619
01:40:58,480 --> 01:41:02,800
within math word problems. I mean aside

2620
01:41:01,119 --> 01:41:04,800
from the language arts portions, right,

2621
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:06,480
that are a little more evident, but

2622
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:08,719
there is a lot of language in common

2623
01:41:06,480 --> 01:41:10,800
core math. And so those those are

2624
01:41:08,719 --> 01:41:12,639
already obstacles that the teachers need

2625
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:15,440
to work with and through through their

2626
01:41:12,639 --> 01:41:18,800
ELD strategies and other methods to have

2627
01:41:15,440 --> 01:41:20,480
students obtain and gain access to the

2628
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:22,080
understanding. We have a lot of

2629
01:41:20,480 --> 01:41:24,239
brilliant students that can understand

2630
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:27,760
math concepts, but the nuances within

2631
01:41:24,239 --> 01:41:30,159
common core require a level of academic

2632
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:32,320
language. And so that is the work that's

2633
01:41:30,159 --> 01:41:34,560
being done in the classroom. So that's

2634
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:37,520
not to say students would necessarily it

2635
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:39,840
would be a barrier but um they would

2636
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:42,159
need to be able to perform on some sort

2637
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:43,600
of indicator to know that they were are

2638
01:41:42,159 --> 01:41:45,679
ready for that additional challenge

2639
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:48,639
because usually in acceleration classes

2640
01:41:45,679 --> 01:41:50,719
they can also be more fast-paced. So

2641
01:41:48,639 --> 01:41:52,800
it's not it's not a deal breaker by any

2642
01:41:50,719 --> 01:41:55,199
stretch, but those are elements to think

2643
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:57,920
about. Um and and quite frankly the the

2644
01:41:55,199 --> 01:42:00,480
bigger worry is work habit work habits

2645
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:02,239
for students when they're um taking

2646
01:42:00,480 --> 01:42:04,560
acceleration classes needing to balance

2647
01:42:02,239 --> 01:42:06,159
it out having to turn things in you know

2648
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:08,400
the rapid pace and so forth. So there's

2649
01:42:06,159 --> 01:42:10,800
other elements as well that can be

2650
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:13,280
barriers too and and because of that

2651
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:14,719
developmental difference in these ages

2652
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:17,920
when these kids are growing and

2653
01:42:14,719 --> 01:42:19,280
developmentally changing so fast. Um not

2654
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:22,080
to say that they don't do that in high

2655
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:25,199
school but it's at a slower rate.

2656
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:26,880
did want to add Anna. Okay. Okay. I I

2657
01:42:25,199 --> 01:42:28,880
think Mike, what you're asking also is

2658
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:31,280
in regard to our multilingual students

2659
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:34,400
and we do have m multilingual students

2660
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:36,239
who definitely um we give them that

2661
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:38,880
opportunity to accelerate especially in

2662
01:42:36,239 --> 01:42:41,040
the math piece. So, as Wendy was was

2663
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:42,239
indicating that um there could be a

2664
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:45,520
barrier with the language and the

2665
01:42:42,239 --> 01:42:48,159
reading. So there is

2666
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:51,199
um there are tools out there right now

2667
01:42:48,159 --> 01:42:54,239
that you know will read to them exactly

2668
01:42:51,199 --> 01:42:55,760
what you you what they need to do and

2669
01:42:54,239 --> 01:42:58,159
then they're able to do it because we've

2670
01:42:55,760 --> 01:43:00,320
seen these kids at Hoover that that was

2671
01:42:58,159 --> 01:43:02,400
a barrier but we fixed that barrier

2672
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:04,239
because we brought in the device that

2673
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:05,440
can help them. Yeah. And I know that,

2674
01:43:04,239 --> 01:43:07,520
you know, over the past several years,

2675
01:43:05,440 --> 01:43:09,119
you've done a great job of expanding the

2676
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:12,080
accelerated math to all of the middle

2677
01:43:09,119 --> 01:43:13,520
schools. U so that, you know, every

2678
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:15,760
student in the district has the

2679
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:17,840
opportunity at their school site um to

2680
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:20,320
be able to participate in those advanced

2681
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:21,679
classes. Um you know, I'm just trying to

2682
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:23,600
make sure that those remain

2683
01:43:21,679 --> 01:43:26,400
opportunities that as many students as

2684
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:28,480
possible can, particularly ones that,

2685
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,760
you know, may not score as well on the

2686
01:43:28,480 --> 01:43:31,280
state test. Do they have other

2687
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:33,040
opportunities to be able to get into

2688
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:36,719
those programs so that it's not a rigid

2689
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:39,360
rigid program with rigid gate with no

2690
01:43:36,719 --> 01:43:41,840
alternative ways in and and in in our

2691
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:44,480
classroom visits, you know, Anna even

2692
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:46,560
said um there's these kids need to be in

2693
01:43:44,480 --> 01:43:49,440
the advanced math. They they should not

2694
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:51,840
be here. Of course, they were um with us

2695
01:43:49,440 --> 01:43:54,080
maybe a year or so or even recent

2696
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:56,080
arrivals, but they need to get into the

2697
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:59,280
advanced class and not be in this class.

2698
01:43:56,080 --> 01:44:00,960
Yeah. and we and they're fine but that

2699
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:03,360
we have the other support systems in

2700
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:06,239
place right because if it's you know if

2701
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:08,639
it is language academic language um you

2702
01:44:06,239 --> 01:44:10,560
know maybe their wind block or whatever

2703
01:44:08,639 --> 01:44:12,880
it is the week before introduces that

2704
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:14,639
vocabulary so that when the material

2705
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:16,480
starts to be taught they've already

2706
01:44:14,639 --> 01:44:18,960
familiar with whatever that academic

2707
01:44:16,480 --> 01:44:21,520
language is um and and can be able to

2708
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:24,560
get to it. So,

2709
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:26,880
um, and then, uh, Jennifer had mentioned

2710
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:28,800
adding strengths into the board policy

2711
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:30,159
and teaching to to student strengths,

2712
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:31,520
but I noticed that like some of the old

2713
01:44:30,159 --> 01:44:33,280
language talked about academic

2714
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:35,280
deficiencies, and I was just wondering

2715
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:37,040
if um, people would be immunable to

2716
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:38,800
changing it to like more assetbased

2717
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:40,400
language around like opportunities for

2718
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:42,560
growth, opportunities to meet their

2719
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:44,000
strengths or or something along those

2720
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,679
lines. I think there's one in the board

2721
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:47,600
policy and one in the AR. It wasn't like

2722
01:44:45,679 --> 01:44:49,360
it was, you know, epic everywhere else,

2723
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:52,800
but like areas for growth or something

2724
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:54,960
like that. Just more acid based.

2725
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:57,520
No objections. No, no objections from

2726
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:59,199
me. All right, cool. Um, yeah, those

2727
01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:02,199
were kind of like my two two topline

2728
01:44:59,199 --> 01:45:02,199
comments.

2729
01:45:02,480 --> 01:45:06,400
Any other uh any other discussion items

2730
01:45:04,639 --> 01:45:10,719
here?

2731
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:13,280
All right, we have discussed um

2732
01:45:10,719 --> 01:45:16,320
let's move on to the

2733
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:17,760
Thank you. I feel, you know, so often I

2734
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:19,360
feel like a lot of the things that we do

2735
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:21,600
are sort of mechanical and we don't

2736
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:23,199
actually get to discuss matters of

2737
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:24,960
policy like what do we want to be when

2738
01:45:23,199 --> 01:45:26,480
we grow up and like that that actually

2739
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:27,920
was a discussion like that which is

2740
01:45:26,480 --> 01:45:30,080
great. No, that's true. That's true.

2741
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:32,480
There's there's some things are you know

2742
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:34,000
there just requirements and don't don't

2743
01:45:32,480 --> 01:45:37,119
worry there's plenty more agenda ahead

2744
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:38,800
of us where we will do things that are

2745
01:45:37,119 --> 01:45:40,480
you know just we have to go through we

2746
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,760
have to do it. um it's part of the job,

2747
01:45:40,480 --> 01:45:43,440
but there are parts where it's like

2748
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:46,080
there are meaty, interesting things to

2749
01:45:43,440 --> 01:45:47,760
discuss and um yeah, I I'm glad that we

2750
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:49,760
took advantage of it. So, yes, thank you

2751
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:51,360
everyone for participating and engaging

2752
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:56,080
with the topics. I think that these are

2753
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:58,400
important ones. Yeah. Um okay. Well, we

2754
01:45:56,080 --> 01:46:00,239
have the consent items. Uh and we're

2755
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:02,239
going to approve all 14 in a single

2756
01:46:00,239 --> 01:46:04,159
vote. So, can I get a motion? I move we

2757
01:46:02,239 --> 01:46:08,159
approve the consent agenda. And is there

2758
01:46:04,159 --> 01:46:10,560
a second? Second. Okay. All in favor? I.

2759
01:46:08,159 --> 01:46:13,440
Perfect. Perfect. Yeah. Okay. Now we are

2760
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:17,130
on to action items. Um this is 10.1 and

2761
01:46:13,440 --> 01:46:18,560
it's the approval of the RCAA proposal.

2762
01:46:17,130 --> 01:46:20,800
[Music]

2763
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:23,280
Uh so these three action items coming to

2764
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:26,719
you tonight regarding um proposals. This

2765
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:28,560
first one is for the administrators, the

2766
01:46:26,719 --> 01:46:31,199
management group within the Redwood City

2767
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:34,480
School District. Not a union but a group

2768
01:46:31,199 --> 01:46:36,080
that comes together um to be considered.

2769
01:46:34,480 --> 01:46:39,199
So, are there any questions regarding

2770
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:42,199
the proposal or the increases in

2771
01:46:39,199 --> 01:46:42,199
compensation?

2772
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:49,040
Questions, comments? Um, anyone have

2773
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:50,560
concerns? I think we've uh we you've

2774
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:52,080
kept us updated through the whole

2775
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:55,520
process. So, I don't think that any of

2776
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:58,159
these are new to us. Um, okay. Then I

2777
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:59,679
think we can go ahead and move to

2778
01:46:58,159 --> 01:47:02,880
approve. Uh, can I get a motion to

2779
01:46:59,679 --> 01:47:05,040
approve? Move to approve the RCA

2780
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:07,920
proposed. Seconded. All right. All in

2781
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:10,400
favor? I I. All right. We'll move on to

2782
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:13,840
10.2. This is for RCTA, the tenative

2783
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:16,000
agreement. We had a very productive um

2784
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:19,760
four in-person meeting sessions with

2785
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:22,560
RCTA to review the contract which

2786
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:26,639
expires in 2026. So, we were negotiating

2787
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:28,159
for 2526 as you know. Um and this

2788
01:47:26,639 --> 01:47:30,239
tenative agreement addresses

2789
01:47:28,159 --> 01:47:32,400
compensation but other contract language

2790
01:47:30,239 --> 01:47:34,960
that needed to be updated. The next

2791
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:36,719
contract um negotiations will actually

2792
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:38,320
be the successor agreement. So that's a

2793
01:47:36,719 --> 01:47:39,840
three-year period. We open up all the

2794
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:41,520
articles, but for this one, as you

2795
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:44,239
notice, there's only a handful that are

2796
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:46,639
open, two from each side of the table

2797
01:47:44,239 --> 01:47:49,040
and then compensation for both groups.

2798
01:47:46,639 --> 01:47:54,159
So are there any questions regarding

2799
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:58,760
RCTA's ratified um and the they ratified

2800
01:47:54,159 --> 01:47:58,760
and then also the tenative agreement.

2801
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:04,159
questions, comments? Now, again, we

2802
01:48:02,639 --> 01:48:06,080
we've been kept along through this, so

2803
01:48:04,159 --> 01:48:08,239
thank you for the updates um to keep us

2804
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:10,400
up to date. Uh can I get a motion to

2805
01:48:08,239 --> 01:48:12,239
approve?

2806
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:15,440
I'll make a motion. And is there a

2807
01:48:12,239 --> 01:48:18,719
second? Seconded. All in favor? I. All

2808
01:48:15,440 --> 01:48:21,360
right. Um and the last is the tenative

2809
01:48:18,719 --> 01:48:25,040
agreement with CSEA.

2810
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:27,040
And once again we met with CSEA for five

2811
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:31,040
um meetings, four in person and one

2812
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:32,800
agreed upon um remote one. And it was

2813
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:35,679
really productive. We talked through

2814
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:38,239
different issues and different concerns

2815
01:48:35,679 --> 01:48:41,280
um in order to make the betterment of um

2816
01:48:38,239 --> 01:48:43,199
the work environment for employees and

2817
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:45,679
some good conversations, some that we'll

2818
01:48:43,199 --> 01:48:47,520
need to continue into the future um

2819
01:48:45,679 --> 01:48:51,360
because we're inching towards progress

2820
01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:53,520
and and so forth. But in general, um, it

2821
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:55,040
it was nice to have conversations back

2822
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:57,199
and forth and really understand each

2823
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:59,520
other's points of view on the various

2824
01:48:57,199 --> 01:49:01,920
topics at hand. And I also do want to

2825
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:04,560
thank at this at this time Rick who is

2826
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:07,119
our partner at the table. Um, we have

2827
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:09,199
two administrators for both unions that

2828
01:49:07,119 --> 01:49:11,199
come and meet and our attorney. So, we

2829
01:49:09,199 --> 01:49:13,920
all it was a good effort um, from the

2830
01:49:11,199 --> 01:49:15,119
district's part and in CSEA's case, they

2831
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:16,960
have representatives from different

2832
01:49:15,119 --> 01:49:18,960
classifications. So it's a larger group

2833
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:20,480
which is nice um because there's

2834
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:22,320
viewpoints from the different

2835
01:49:20,480 --> 01:49:24,400
classifications. So this tenative

2836
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:27,119
agreement really represents the work

2837
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:31,199
over this session.

2838
01:49:27,119 --> 01:49:33,600
Does anyone have questions or comments?

2839
01:49:31,199 --> 01:49:35,679
No. Okay. And then I will just echo uh

2840
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:38,080
your appreciation there, Wendy. Um thank

2841
01:49:35,679 --> 01:49:40,080
you to the district staff um and of

2842
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:41,679
course to our bargaining units um and

2843
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:43,760
our staff members that make up the

2844
01:49:41,679 --> 01:49:45,600
executive team uh for their bargaining

2845
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:48,400
units for the work that's gone on. I

2846
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:50,080
know um this is not classroom time, but

2847
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:52,000
it's an important thing to be able to

2848
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:53,520
do. So, I appreciate everyone's effort

2849
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:55,440
and thank you to the board for the

2850
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:57,679
consistent support of the union groups

2851
01:49:55,440 --> 01:50:01,560
and the comments that are made. Yeah. Uh

2852
01:49:57,679 --> 01:50:01,560
can I get a motion to approve?

2853
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:10,719
I'll make a motion. Seconded. Okay. All

2854
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:12,800
in favor? I I Great. Okay. Last one. Uh

2855
01:50:10,719 --> 01:50:14,719
this is the year-end budget transfers.

2856
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:16,480
As the name says, it's we do this every

2857
01:50:14,719 --> 01:50:17,440
year at the end for budget transfers.

2858
01:50:16,480 --> 01:50:19,840
Rick, do you want to just give a

2859
01:50:17,440 --> 01:50:21,040
preamble for it? Sure. I just want to

2860
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:23,040
make sure we are grounded in a

2861
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:26,040
mechanical item to end the meeting

2862
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:26,040
tonight.

2863
01:50:27,119 --> 01:50:31,360
U

2864
01:50:28,719 --> 01:50:34,239
a standard uh yearly occurrence uh

2865
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:36,960
allowing us to transfer on balances to

2866
01:50:34,239 --> 01:50:40,080
pay obligations. Uh we shouldn't have to

2867
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:41,840
use it much, but in case we need to, we

2868
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:45,040
have the authorization. So, with that,

2869
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:46,880
I'll hand it back to the board.

2870
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:50,040
Does anyone have questions or comments

2871
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:50,040
for Rick?

2872
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:54,560
Okay. Then, can I get a motion to

2873
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:57,520
approve? I move we approve this

2874
01:50:54,560 --> 01:51:00,560
mechanical. Is there a second? All in

2875
01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:03,040
favor? I I. Excellent. We're on to board

2876
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:05,679
and superintendent reports.

2877
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:10,199
Who wants to start? Pick wisely because

2878
01:51:05,679 --> 01:51:10,199
we'll just rotate around from there. So,

2879
01:51:12,159 --> 01:51:15,360
All right, Trusty Lee, I was sitting

2880
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:16,480
down there by at the end, you're going

2881
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:19,760
to start and we're going to just move

2882
01:51:16,480 --> 01:51:22,080
around. Like many of us uh did the

2883
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:24,239
circuit of the promotion ceremonies at

2884
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:25,840
Northstar, Clifford, and Taft. It was

2885
01:51:24,239 --> 01:51:27,360
great to see great to see all the

2886
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:30,320
different communities and all the

2887
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:32,320
different flavors of um of each school

2888
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:35,800
site and it was great to see everyone in

2889
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:35,800
celebration together.

2890
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:42,320
Did we also have um our I'm forgetting.

2891
01:51:40,719 --> 01:51:47,280
Did we also have our health and wellness

2892
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:52,480
meeting or was that close?

2893
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:55,199
Um I was at uh MIT. Um and then I was at

2894
01:51:52,480 --> 01:51:58,000
Adilente for Principal Warren's

2895
01:51:55,199 --> 01:52:02,719
retirement. That was nice. And then we

2896
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:06,400
also had uh I also had um I was at Ford.

2897
01:52:02,719 --> 01:52:06,400
That was nice for fifth graders.

2898
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:15,599
Cecilia. Yeah.

2899
01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:19,679
Um I attended the um Kennedy's mural

2900
01:52:15,599 --> 01:52:21,440
celebration. That was very nice. Um

2901
01:52:19,679 --> 01:52:25,040
it was beautiful. I mean, everyone that

2902
01:52:21,440 --> 01:52:27,360
spoke from the teacher that I was so

2903
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:30,080
impressive to see her with this baby

2904
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:33,920
and, you know, a little pouch and she

2905
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:36,960
was talking um about all the great um

2906
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:38,639
students are at Kennedy. They performed

2907
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:42,320
the

2908
01:52:38,639 --> 01:52:44,960
they did a part of the play, I guess. I

2909
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:47,440
wasn't I was towards the end, so I

2910
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:49,040
didn't really hear what they were. It it

2911
01:52:47,440 --> 01:52:51,760
was a group of students, but I think it

2912
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:55,040
was part of whether it was part of the

2913
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:56,719
play or a play. Um it was from the drama

2914
01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:58,480
program that that's taught that the

2915
01:52:56,719 --> 01:53:01,040
drama electives, the students performed.

2916
01:52:58,480 --> 01:53:03,760
Yeah. There. Thanks. Um so it was really

2917
01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:05,760
nice and obviously the mural. It's just

2918
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:10,000
fabulous. And obviously all the students

2919
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:15,440
that put their um efforts into

2920
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:18,800
helping bring color to it. Um,

2921
01:53:15,440 --> 01:53:22,320
I attended the

2922
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:25,119
last Spanish superintendent advisory

2923
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:27,280
committee. Um,

2924
01:53:25,119 --> 01:53:29,119
the ladies actually got a certificate

2925
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:31,360
and they're very gracious. One of them

2926
01:53:29,119 --> 01:53:33,760
is moving on to the high school and so

2927
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:35,760
we're going to be sad to see her go and

2928
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:37,679
hopefully they will have their homework

2929
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:42,159
is to bring at least two more parents

2930
01:53:37,679 --> 01:53:46,560
next year to um, be part of this. Um, I

2931
01:53:42,159 --> 01:53:50,960
also came to the retirement reception

2932
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:54,560
and um went to the Hoover and the

2933
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:57,960
Kennedy um graduations

2934
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:57,960
and that's it.

2935
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:05,119
All right. Um, we had uh the 2 by 2 by

2936
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:09,199
two. That's the first one that we've

2937
01:54:05,119 --> 01:54:12,560
ever been to. Um, so that's uh David Lee

2938
01:54:09,199 --> 01:54:14,080
and I and Dr. Baker. Um two trustees

2939
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:17,119
from the school union high school

2940
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:18,880
district and two uh council members. Um

2941
01:54:17,119 --> 01:54:21,599
the chief of police shared their plans

2942
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:23,520
for having community leaison officers.

2943
01:54:21,599 --> 01:54:25,360
It's not final yet, but they're bringing

2944
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:28,320
community leaison officer to the high

2945
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:29,520
school. Um Dr. Baker gave updates from

2946
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:31,040
city school district. Then we heard some

2947
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:33,119
updates from the school union one. It

2948
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:35,360
was about an hour. U yeah also went to

2949
01:54:33,119 --> 01:54:37,679
graduations. Uh and it it is really neat

2950
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:39,119
to see how different each one is. um the

2951
01:54:37,679 --> 01:54:40,719
personalities that the principles bring

2952
01:54:39,119 --> 01:54:42,320
to it, the communities bring to it and

2953
01:54:40,719 --> 01:54:45,280
everything that's there. Um Garfield,

2954
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:46,880
Roosevelt, Roy Cloud, and Orion. Also,

2955
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:48,800
having gone to just the fifth grade

2956
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:50,000
promotions for a while, then then

2957
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:51,360
suddenly showing up to middle school,

2958
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:54,239
you're like, "Oh man, they're so much

2959
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:56,880
older." You know, so,

2960
01:54:54,239 --> 01:54:58,719
you know, it's Yeah. Yeah. It's

2961
01:54:56,880 --> 01:55:00,400
remarkable. I was at the mural

2962
01:54:58,719 --> 01:55:01,679
celebration with Cecilia. I'd forgotten

2963
01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:03,040
about that. And the staff retirement

2964
01:55:01,679 --> 01:55:05,440
celebration. And then the one thing that

2965
01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:07,199
I wanted to report on is that I think we

2966
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:10,320
have all our paperwork in to be able to

2967
01:55:07,199 --> 01:55:12,239
do the board self- evaluation. Um so

2968
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:14,080
that should be coming in. Thank you

2969
01:55:12,239 --> 01:55:16,639
Evelyn for your help and for for getting

2970
01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:19,920
that all finalized. Um the that should

2971
01:55:16,639 --> 01:55:22,880
be coming via email to us all starting

2972
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:25,280
on the 16th for like a two to two week

2973
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:26,560
window or so to be able to fill it out.

2974
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:28,239
Haven't done it before. Don't know

2975
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:30,159
what's going to be in it. Um but just

2976
01:55:28,239 --> 01:55:32,000
look out in your email. Uh and I just

2977
01:55:30,159 --> 01:55:35,040
wanted to share that now that that uh

2978
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:38,639
that that'll be coming um I guess that's

2979
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:42,000
Monday the 16th.

2980
01:55:38,639 --> 01:55:43,679
Is that self-evaluation going to be for

2981
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:46,639
open discussion at one of the sessions

2982
01:55:43,679 --> 01:55:48,880
in June? We will do it at our offsite in

2983
01:55:46,639 --> 01:55:50,800
August. Uh we'll have a session there.

2984
01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:52,239
Yeah. So we're doing it now. Um

2985
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:53,920
originally I had intended for the

2986
01:55:52,239 --> 01:55:55,199
timeline to be to do the evaluation in

2987
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:58,800
June, but then it made sense to just

2988
01:55:55,199 --> 01:56:00,560
kind of do it in an offsite. Um, and so

2989
01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:02,800
yeah, it'll sit there for a while. Uh,

2990
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:04,639
and this is run by CSBA. They'll do an

2991
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:06,639
evaluation and a plan and sort of um,

2992
01:56:04,639 --> 01:56:08,480
we'll see and we can evaluate the

2993
01:56:06,639 --> 01:56:10,719
evaluation and see if we think that it's

2994
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:12,480
a helpful tool that that's useful for us

2995
01:56:10,719 --> 01:56:14,800
and I think you'll get one too. Yeah.

2996
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:17,520
And also remember that uh, the off-site

2997
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:21,679
is an it's open. It's not a closed

2998
01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:24,480
meeting. So um, attended many of the

2999
01:56:21,679 --> 01:56:26,639
same uh, events that many of you have

3000
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:28,480
attended. Uh the promotion, the

3001
01:56:26,639 --> 01:56:31,440
graduations were just a lot of fun. Just

3002
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:33,599
just fantastic. Uh Hoovers was really

3003
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:35,199
quite large and you knew so many people

3004
01:56:33,599 --> 01:56:36,880
there

3005
01:56:35,199 --> 01:56:40,080
from being, you know, within the

3006
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:42,880
community. So um Lupa did a great job.

3007
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:45,760
Her her students were amazing, the

3008
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:48,400
people that spoke. And then uh with

3009
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:49,920
Warren, I promised I was not going to,

3010
01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:51,760
you know, roast him or anything, and I

3011
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:53,679
didn't. Um, but you know, we really just

3012
01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:55,599
wanted to I wanted to acknowledge him

3013
01:56:53,679 --> 01:56:58,080
there with the kids and the parents, you

3014
01:56:55,599 --> 01:56:59,920
know, of his, you know, 11 years being,

3015
01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:02,880
you know, an administrator at that

3016
01:56:59,920 --> 01:57:05,760
school site. Now he's on his way. So,

3017
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:07,679
but it was great. It was great times. No

3018
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:11,440
hot Well, some of you got in the really

3019
01:57:07,679 --> 01:57:14,480
in the heat, right? There was Yeah.

3020
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:16,480
Yeah. Hottish. Yeah. You don't know. You

3021
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:19,679
honestly You have no idea. This was This

3022
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:22,159
was warm. Uh there have been times where

3023
01:57:19,679 --> 01:57:24,719
it's like clearly like almost 100.

3024
01:57:22,159 --> 01:57:28,040
You're in the sun and it's just this was

3025
01:57:24,719 --> 01:57:28,040
very comfortable.

3026
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:41,280
Yeah, that's it. Okay. Um anyone have

3027
01:57:38,159 --> 01:57:43,520
correspondence to share?

3028
01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:48,080
I guess there's my own correspondence,

3029
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:50,480
but I I for giggles went and wrote a uh

3030
01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:52,159
scraper that goes and pulls down all of

3031
01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:53,520
our district's policies because we don't

3032
01:57:52,159 --> 01:57:55,280
actually have them in machine readable

3033
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:57,199
format. They're published in you can

3034
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:58,400
download PDFs. And so I wrote some open

3035
01:57:57,199 --> 01:58:01,199
source software that goes and breaks

3036
01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:03,040
that apart um and then uses AI to go and

3037
01:58:01,199 --> 01:58:05,760
analyze each one of the policies and see

3038
01:58:03,040 --> 01:58:08,880
if I can um find if there were any

3039
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:11,119
issues. um found a couple small nits

3040
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:14,400
that I sent onward uh to the board and

3041
01:58:11,119 --> 01:58:17,840
to uh Dr. Baker and then later to Wendy

3042
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:19,920
and Jolene per Jennifer's suggestion. Um

3043
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:21,840
but yeah, I'm going to uh see if this

3044
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:24,320
goes anywhere with being able to help us

3045
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:25,599
uh get an extra set of eyes just on

3046
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:28,080
these policies and look for

3047
01:58:25,599 --> 01:58:30,080
opportunities for uh improvement, look

3048
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:32,480
for opportunities to align it with uh

3049
01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:34,000
California Ed Code. Um it is open source

3050
01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:35,760
if anyone's interested in checking it

3051
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:38,159
out. It's on GitHub uh under

3052
01:58:35,760 --> 01:58:40,800
dweekly/rcsden

3053
01:58:38,159 --> 01:58:42,560
policy. Um so if anyone wants to take a

3054
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:45,119
look at the source code and analysis

3055
01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:47,119
that uh I did and build on that because

3056
01:58:45,119 --> 01:58:49,199
now it's uh you can do your own

3057
01:58:47,119 --> 01:58:53,599
experiments on a machine readable corpus

3058
01:58:49,199 --> 01:58:55,199
of the district's policies. So cool

3059
01:58:53,599 --> 01:58:58,800
fun. Thanks for sharing. You want to

3060
01:58:55,199 --> 01:59:00,639
have more correspondence? No. Okay. Um

3061
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:03,119
possible other business suggested items.

3062
01:59:00,639 --> 01:59:06,159
I know we had one earlier to add to our

3063
01:59:03,119 --> 01:59:08,159
list of um study session the parking lot

3064
01:59:06,159 --> 01:59:10,960
that I'm apparently maintaining. Yes.

3065
01:59:08,159 --> 01:59:12,800
Yeah. Um

3066
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:15,040
any other No. Okay. We've gone change

3067
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:17,360
the other one. Are there any changes?

3068
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:19,360
There's only two more. So, no changes.

3069
01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:20,800
Okay. No, no changes to the remaining

3070
01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:22,080
few of the board meetings. Are there

3071
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:25,440
other things I should put in the parking

3072
01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:27,119
lot that are occur to people? Um well,

3073
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:28,560
you had an email at one point where you

3074
01:59:27,119 --> 01:59:29,760
had a list of items. Yeah, those are the

3075
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:33,080
ones that I think should go in there.

3076
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:33,080
Yeah. Cool.

3077
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:45,760
Um, I think that's it. Uh, let's make

3078
01:59:44,159 --> 01:59:48,239
him, uh, we're at the adjournment. Would

3079
01:59:45,760 --> 01:59:50,560
someone like to move to? Yes. Thank you.

3080
01:59:48,239 --> 01:59:55,320
Is there a second? Second. Okay. All in

3081
01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:55,320
favor? I. Thanks. Meetings adjourned.